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Platapus 10-25-20 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2702362)
I must admit to being quite underwhelmed by the final debate last night.

Highlights (no pun intended).


For me, the only highlight of that debate is knowing that it was the last one!

mapuc 10-25-20 04:46 PM

@ Platapus

Thank you so much for your input to my comments

It shows that our journalist, Danish or Swedish, who works in USA, may not have the knowledge one should believe they must have.

I an ordinary person can do nothing than believe what they tell me in the news

Markus

Onkel Neal 10-25-20 07:12 PM

Trump is going to lose the election.

Platapus 10-26-20 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2702808)
@ Platapus

Thank you so much for your input to my comments


Markus


You are most welcome.

Jimbuna 10-26-20 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2702828)
Trump is going to lose the election.

I can't help thinking neither candidate is worthy.

Platapus 10-26-20 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2702828)
Trump is going to lose the election.


It might be a close election. Nothing is certain about elections.



There is, after all, only one polling that is important and that is the one that is on or after 3 Nov.


That's why I encourage everyone to ignore the pre-election polls and to vote as if this were the closest election in our history-- Every voter is important.



What we can't afford is to have any voter think "I don't need to vote, it's already a done deal". :nope:


In my precinct (as of a week ago), 31% of the voters in my precinct have already voted with an additional 11% having requested ballots but had not voted yet.



I can see that prior to 3 Nov, my precinct might be close to 50%. That would be awesome! The more people who vote early means the fewer number of people who will be showing up at my precinct. This will help us keep the voters safer through social distancing while keeping the lines shorter.



I hope that this election results in the largest voter turnout percentages in our history. That record will be hard to beat. As a ratio of Voting Age Population (VAP) to votes, the record was made back in 1876 with 81.8% voter turnout.



I hope we break that record in 2020!

mapuc 10-26-20 09:44 AM

Have this in mind
Give me freedom or give me death.

The American loves their freedom

So what could Biden have done different from Trump ? Impose China-like restrictions ? Well if I know my American friends it would mean huge demonstration, maybe riots and perhaps first step towards a civil war.

It's a thought based on these video clip where Biden have spoken about Corona and where he's critical on Trump's enforcement of this corona pandemic.

yes be critics on how Trump have acted, but do not fall into the believe Mr. Biden would have done it a lot better.

(I posted it here, because there's a reason to why Biden is in the lead up to the election)

Edit
Don't want to post two comment in a row.

The Republican has majority in the Senate at least the next 2 years ahead, so what are Biden hoping to archive in his first 2 years.
From all the news I get here and by reading your comments I get the picture your political country is very divided..it's us and them...not we together.
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Markus

Strykr 10-26-20 09:16 PM

TRUMP wins.
Election night.

The Silent Majority votes Nov. 3 in person.

Sean C 10-27-20 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2702927)
From all the news I get here and by reading your comments I get the picture your political country is very divided..it's us and them...not we together.


And that is the heart of the problem right there.

Jimbuna 10-28-20 07:44 AM

With less than a week to go, Biden leads Trump nationally by approximately 7 – 12 percentage points, according to various national polls – but the race is tighter in battleground states that could swing the outcome.

A record number of people have cast their ballots early. More than 70 million Americans have voted in person or by post, which is more than half the total turnout in the 2016 election.

Trump supporters were left out in the cold on Tuesday following a rally in Omaha, Nebraska. The problem was caused by a shortage of shuttle buses from the airfield where Trump spoke, back to where people had parked their cars.

Trump is set to hold two rallies on Wednesday in Arizona – a battleground state.

Biden will give a speech near his home in Delaware on his plans to combat coronavirus, while his running-mate Kamala Harris is also bound for Arizona.

mapuc 10-28-20 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathaniel B. (Post 2703095)
And that is the heart of the problem right there.

I know I will get different answers to my question because it's all about what standpoint you have.

It's definitely not Trump, nor is it Biden who have the ability, so
Which American politician do you think can unite USA again ?

Markus

skidman 10-28-20 12:40 PM

LeBron James, even his beard would win the election easily.

Platapus 10-28-20 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2703385)
I know I will get different answers to my question because it's all about what standpoint you have.

It's definitely not Trump, nor is it Biden who have the ability, so
Which American politician do you think can unite USA again ?

Markus


We may never unite back. This extreme partisanship is a cancer that may not be curable.

I read a lot of other forums on the Internets Tubes. It is a form of mental illness, I confess. But no matter what the topic is, if someone does something even remotely wrong, the first question for many people seems to be "were they a democrat or republican?" as if that has any relevance to the story.

The political generalization is getting ridiculous.

One person doing something wrong represents the entire political party if it is the "other" party.

Bad things done by a person of "our" party is a one-off and does not represent the entire party. :doh:

There are people who really think like this. The only thing more illogical then generalization is selective generalization.

One of my biggest concerns is that there is a growing number of people who truly believe that a government official that is not of their party can not be entrusted to do a fair and honest job. That's disturbing.

I have been reading posts for a while where people are wanting all Election Officers to be required to declare their political affiliation.

The rationale? Because how can trust our Election Officers if we don't know what party they vote for? I guess our oath of office is not sufficient. I find this sort of talk personally insulting. I and my Election Officers take our oaths of office very seriously.

The partisanship in my country has been getting worse for the past few decades and I see no reason to expect it not continuing to get worse in the future. At some point, something will break.

I don't know what that point will be, nor do I know what will break. Hopefully I will be dead when that happens

I don't think any president can fix this. We can only hope that future presidents won't make things worse. As for the Congress? Fat chance of them fixing anything. They get elected because of the partisanship!

When trying to engage people in conversations about this, all I seem to hear is a childish "the other side started it" "well that side does it worse". Like recess at Elementary School. :nope:

It is depressing.

August 10-28-20 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by skidman (Post 2703392)
LeBron James, even his beard would win the election easily.


He's got about as much chance of uniting the nation as you do.

skidman 10-28-20 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2703434)
One of my biggest concerns is that there is a growing number of people who truly believe that a government official that is not of their party can not be entrusted to do a fair and honest job. That's disturbing.

I wonder if is this is a consequence of how we get and process information. In the internet age the flux of news has become too fast. Homo sapiens usually labels things and likes to put them in the right drawer. We tend to follow that pattern even if there is not enough time to do so.

The level of complexity and uncertainty is rising. We have no adequate answer. A politician saying: "I just don't know, but I'll double-check and get back to you later" would have less chances to get reelected than LeBron James' beard.

The less we can be sure we are right, the more we want to believe the other side is wrong. Be sure to use labels like socialist, fascist, unicorns (yeah) and so on to discredit the opposite half. And if you've found someone and something to believe in, stick to it for Heaven's sake.

Social cohesion is generated by narratives the majority can share. For example: The German society is built on 4 football world cups won, a spectacular economic rise after WW2 called the "Wirtschaftswunder" and cars (I am oversimplifying, OK?). From my (very limited) European point of view the US society is built on a promise called "the American dream" (that was crucified by Ronald Reagan, but nobody gives a damn). I think that the US society is breaking apart, because one half refuses to acknowledge the American dream for most people can not become truth anymore and the other half failing to formulate a new narrative.


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