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Madox58 03-15-14 04:21 PM

Make a joke? Your an Asshat.
Post speculactions based on your lean towards anything else? Your OK.
I can follow the news posts (Which seems Disney is handleing)

Oh crap! that was another joke wasn't it?
:haha:

Oberon 03-15-14 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2186366)
Don't know if this has been mention in this thread

Read an article where an expert are convinced the plane have exploded. He said, it was weird that no one had send message or something, even before the plane hit the towers passengers had time to send messages to their love one, but here absolutely nothing.

Hmm, I'm absolutely no expert on aviation, however, if the plane did explode, shouldn't these signal have stopped or?

Markus

Depends where it exploded and where the military radars that tracked this aircraft heading out towards the Indian ocean lost contact with it. If it did explode at altitude though there would likely have been wreckage floating in the water, and it's likely that a vessel in the area would have spotted something by now.
If the aircraft exploded then all signals would stop, although the black box would emit its high-frequency sonar ping for however long the batteries permit it to, the snag is finding that needle in an ocean of haystack.

CCIP 03-15-14 06:43 PM

The duration for which signals were transmitting also suggests that, if anything, it would've crashed after running out of fuel.

Here's one possible hypothesis: assuming the aircraft went deep into the Indian Ocean, it could be that someone hijacked it, cut communications and gave the pilots reason to suspect that the plane would be crashed into a populated area. The crew could've then found a way to distract the hijackers and pretend to fly it towards a target while heading away from land to prevent this from actually happening and to at least prevent casualties on the ground. Since it was night, it might've worked for a while and the foil wouldn't be discovered until too late.
Though that also seems a bit out there... But that could explain a south Indian Ocean scenario, if the plane headed there and disappeared.

Of the two proposed tracks, though, my money is on the one heading in the direction of Kazakhstan. And if it's terrorism (and I still suspect it is), my bet is currently on the Uighur situation with China.

As for the previous piracy discussion, one quick side note - you don't need to ascribe it to Somali pirates at all, because there's piracy closer to home. Malacca Strait is one of the world's piracy hot spots, nearly as bad as the Somali coast. So if it was a pirate hijacking, give their local talent some credit - they're as "good" at it as the Somalis (and arguably the piracy in that region is far more organized and sophisticated, just less random and violent than in Somalia so it doesn't get as much attention).

RickC Sniper 03-15-14 08:17 PM

Why did they wait several days before releasing the information that the plane was still pinging satellites hours after it was reported missing?


I think a pilot took over the plane and just took it to deeper water b4 killing himself and all others with him.

The whole idea of it landing somewhere covertly just seems too difficult to ever pull off.

RickC Sniper 03-15-14 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 2186441)

As for the previous piracy discussion, one quick side note - you don't need to ascribe it to Somali pirates at all, because there's piracy closer to home. Malacca Strait is one of the world's piracy hot spots, nearly as bad as the Somali coast. So if it was a pirate hijacking, give their local talent some credit - they're as "good" at it as the Somalis (and arguably the piracy in that region is far more organized and sophisticated, just less random and violent than in Somalia so it doesn't get as much attention).

Wouldn't pirates be demanding ransom by now?

CCIP 03-15-14 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RickC Sniper (Post 2186466)
Wouldn't pirates be demanding ransom by now?

Exactly! That's why I sort of brushed away that cause earlier, just saying that if it were piracy, no need to look at Somalia.

Granted, it could still be anything. But even if it was piracy, something went horribly wrong.

Skybird 03-16-14 06:53 AM

Malaysian police now officially base their examinations on the suspicion of hijacking, sabotage, and terrorism, not accidents.

German media point at American media speculating that the plane may have been intended for a terror attack against Diego Garcia.

The US navy refused to comment on speculations by German tabloid "Bild" (The German pendant to the Sun or Daily Mail) that navy fighters may have intentionally been ordered to shoot down the plane in order to prevent such an attack on Diego Garcia.

Catfish 03-16-14 01:22 PM

^ I am a bit reluctant towards this theory, you know "conspiracy theories" work both ways - and we know that suspicious actions if being detected and being talked about, have asap be called "conspiracy theories", to discredit them (among others by the NSA).
Calling others tinfoil hats is sure to caus a laugh, and divert from the real thing.

But let us think if this were true - "they" (whoever) captured a jet with passengers, and landed the plane somewhere, to use it for a terroristic act later. Regardless what they plan, they could use the passengers as hostages, so any military plane would be reluctant to shoot it down, even if they knew the new pilots would be up to something bad..

Or think of this: The jet along with original pilots and passengers is being set free, and closing in to xyz airport - would the military let it land, or shoot it down ? I mean even if no terroristic act or anything is planned, the paranoia against terrorism is so big, it could happen ..


I still think theremust be another reason, and cause :06:

Jimbuna 03-16-14 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2186688)

Or think of this: The jet along with original pilots and passengers is being set free, and closing in to xyz airport - would the military let it land, or shoot it down ? I mean even if no terroristic act or anything is planned, the paranoia against terrorism is so big, it could happen ..

An extremely valid question/point.

GoldenRivet 03-16-14 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RickC Sniper (Post 2186466)
Wouldn't pirates be demanding ransom by now?

Not if the terror organization providing the passengers told them to wait until XX date - that way it could be kept secret that they have the plane until its too late.

mapuc 03-16-14 01:48 PM

I guess you haven't forgot how Afghanistan helped Osama, maybe a country is doing the same here.

Just a thought

Markus

krashkart 03-16-14 02:01 PM

Apparently Russia believes MH370 was captured by the US Navy and flown to a secret base on Diego Garcia atoll. Sounds like a load of bull (the article I mean) to me. :hmmm:

http://www.pisau.net/russia-puzzled-...-prayformh370/


EDIT: Gah! I've been duped. I'll leave the article linked anyway for your entertainment.

Jimbuna 03-16-14 02:29 PM

LOL :)

bertieck476 03-16-14 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2186688)
^

Or think of this: The jet along with original pilots and passengers is being set free, and closing in to xyz airport - would the military let it land, or shoot it down ? I mean even if no terroristic act or anything is planned, the paranoia against terrorism is so big, it could happen ..


I still think theremust be another reason, and cause :06:

If this scenario arose Im sure the aircraft would be escorted to a safe place of landing via a safe corridor with explicit instructions not to deviate.

Admiral Halsey 03-16-14 06:24 PM

I TOLD YOU GUYS THE PLANE WAS STOLEN/HIJACKED!!!!


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