You specifically stated that "them" referred to muslims, a term he never used. He specifically mentioned "Arab and Pakistani Americans" and left little doubt over his meaning by adding the reference to interment camps. Again, one or the other is true. Which is it?

You also again try to dismiss Snopes because of their ties. When others dismissed your quoted sources because of their ties, you said it didn't matter as long as they told the truth. Do you now seek to have it both ways? My point is that Snopes does show that self-proclaimed "conservative" sources have changed the wording to suit their own charges. This makes those sources liars. So which one is telling the truth? That's all I ask.

Wrong. Marxism is a development of hegels progressive stuff which itself is from the enlightenment age.
You may be familiar with some leading lights of that movement as they were some of the blokes who wrote that US constitution thingy you always prattle on about how good it is.
Once again you get your facts backwards in your lame attempt to justify your ridiculous claims once people point out that they are ridiculous:woot:

Context is everything young man, didn't your teachers (who don't know anything according to you) teach you that?
Definitions are also very important, which you should know as a "legal mind", but you appear to make definitions up as you go along.
I take it the snopes "cover up" can be added to your ever growing list of crazy conspiracy theories now

So you are trying to tell me progressivism is not rooted in marxism? haha wow, you are some kind of special.

Oh yes, the founders were a bunch of marxists LOL.

Yes, context matters BUT it is often used for a cover to excuse or hide the intent and meaning of things. Obama said some very hurtful, racist things describing his views long before he had a future in politics(last time he was honest in public on this issue) and supporters of his try to excuse it with context.Now, if obama's actions reflected a changed man, I would honestly say okay, he changed.I will admit to some racist feelings when I was in my teens and even toward late teens, I was not taught that but just some natural feelings I had, which is a common human thing.Did not hate people of different races but I had my issues, it took some growing up and self reflection to get over it. However, obama's associations and behavior since then reflect someone who holds racist views.I mentioned a slew of incidents from the black panther's case, the louis henry gates incident, supporting a thug like trayvon martin, the race baiting he has engaged in.The "I will nominate everyone but a white male" to the supreme court and various other positions.Battling voter ID laws claiming racial discrimination the list just goes on and on. Really, you need to get over the comment I made about professors not knowing anything, you have blown that way out of proportion.I was saying I am sick of the liberal bias in academia which is well known.The particular professor I was speaking of is one who shoves the living constitution crap down everyone's throat, I argued with him constantly,I will say he proved to be fair in grading despite personal animosity(ran into him at the pub one night, made i pretty clear we did not like one another over some scotch, amusing incident), but he is part of the problem.

wow:doh:
Lets take this in easy steps, just so you don't get even more lost.

Which came first?
How can something (A) be rooted in another thing (B) which didn't exist at the time (A) came along?
If (B) comes after (A) how can (A) be derived from (B) ?

What a silly statement.
Trying reading, you know, left to right, top to bottom:rotfl2:
Its no wonder that your "research" always turns out to be so entertaining for the forum.

Why do you lie young man?
You said all the teachers in your school, you also said all the other students were dumb too

:roll:

Nice. For a guy studying law your debating skills have hit a low point.

What's that got to do with anything? Are you saying that you have to be an American to have any knowledge about America? For a college boy you seem to have a remarkable lack of understanding.

Look pal, if you've run out of arguments, just say so. If you're going to act like a child, I'll stop wasting my time.

That is your opinion, PAL. I understand, I just don't agree with what you guys are selling, so you insult.I said he is clueless because he seems to be.

I did not say you will not understand America if you are not an American BUT it explains the disconnect

Stop twisting, what I am saying, jesus christ. Bottom line, it is all connected and we are way off topic here but obama is a marxist at heart, even admits he sought their company in college, and never stopped.

Okay, you took my statement about teachers and fellow students a little too seriously, but that is what you do, you are a troll, I should expect no less.

I feel so sorry for this guy, what isn't he being acccused of

Being a Muslim
Being a Marxist
Being a non-American
a.s.o

I'm truly happy that I ain't your president.

What's more funny, is that those who accuse Obama or other president to be anything else, haven't got a clue about the American law and what POTUS really can do.

NO!! He can't turn American into some kind of Khalifat and turn the laws into Sharia-laws.

In a very very long distance he could, but here we are talking decades not years.

Markus

Every thing that you've said in this thread is your opinion. Why is yours special?

Calling someone pal is hardly an insult. This is.

And then..

Again, this is your problem. I don't know why you can't see it? If someone disagrees with you and you can't make a reasonable argument, you claim that they have a disconnect? That's your explanation?!?

I wish you the best of luck in your future law career.

You're gonna need it.

You seem to have a misconception here. You are the one who is doing the selling, or trying to. You keep making the same pitch. People keep asking for one good reason why they should buy it, and you keep coming up with nothing more than your personal feelings. When someone shows you that your facts are wrong you either say their sources are biased or say they are clueless. What you have yet to do is answer any direct questions or prove that their (our) sources are actually wrong. I'm still waiting for a response to questions I asked several pages ago.

So, essentially, this entire thread, and most threads like it have been a 21st century version of this:

http://www.pitchcoach.co.uk/wp-conte.../snake-oil.jpg

Although most of the time they sound like this:

http://www.sovereignindependentuk.co...e-cleansed.png

No twisting of your words young man, its your words despite your earlier lame denials. Context matters too, and you can't deny the context of your own words there.
So why are you lying ?
As a "legal expert" do you understand the implications on the credibility of all your statements if some of your statements are proven to be completely false, even moreso if you persist in the lies long after they have been clearly exposed as such.
Your problem in this topic(and others) is that your claims have repeatedly shown to be false, but you still insist that they are really the truth.
It leaves you with no credibility at all and it makes yourself and your claims into a joke.
Young man, are you the person who said he likes to annoy people with his arguments, a person who said he likes to get under their skin ?
Are you going to attempt to wriggle some imaginary context out of your statements to attempt to justify them?
Or perhaps even flatly deny again that your words are your words?

Face it young man, you have hung yourself and were so unwittingly eager to put your head in that you even tied the noose yourself.



Not true Sailor, he did answer a question on if he was a product of home schooling.
Though of course as a proven liar it naturally does raise reasonable doubts over the validity of his denial.

Name calling and insults is the quickest way to bring about my involvement here.

I'm not apportioning blame to anyone and certainly won't be reading through all these pages.

What I am doing is drawing a line here and will act accordingly should the need arise from here onwards.