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peabody 01-29-10 01:08 PM

I for one will not be buying it, it is plain and simple...Spyware. One thing everyone trys to keep off their computer.
The connection to the net to play is one thing but they also want the 'savegames' on their servers. Why would anyone want to maintain a server for the thousands of savegames if it isn't to gather data?
To find out who is playing, when, what settings. Are people having to set lower setting in order to play. Are people using manual targeting or auto, can they use full graphics or do they need to 'tone it down' There is tons of information in the savegames that can easily be collected using a well written program.
And don't forget all the question and problems from the Multiplayers, that could not get the servers to work, and when then came out with the Uboat add on pack, the server was never upgraded to be able to use it. And how many would have been using multiplayer and never voiced their opinion, just gave up? Will this be any different?

IF and that's a big IF this information is correct about DRM then the game will never be on my computer. You want to know info for future development, ask me, don't try to force me to give it to you with this Spyware. I for one can see no use for having my savegames on the Ubisoft servers other than to collect data. They will complain about not being able to do more than 1943 due to cost and then turn around and maintain expensive servers for your savegames. Good thing this is not a trial, there is not a jury in the world that would buy that one.

Peabody

Onkel Neal 01-29-10 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doolan (Post 1251287)
I'll be sincere, I have never been an activist in this sense. I accepted and even welcomed Steam, and I'm aware that the vast majority of gamers nowadays have an internet connection 24 / 7, so that kind of activation has never stopped me from making a purchase.

But there are limits.

As other users have pointed out, Steam is a different thing altogether. You have to activate online once, and check for patches now and then, with a little connection here and there to refresh its memory. It's also the leading online distribution service, with rock-solid servers that have never let me down.

But Ubi? Give me a break. I find it annoying enough to need a different account for every different service every different company ends up making, only to remove it some time later. Most games I have played that went for online DRM ended up removing it, except for Steam-based ones, when they noticed that they just couldn't handle the kind of server uptime required for it. I'll never understand why every company tries and tries when there's already a service of choice and they are not going to beat it. If anyone remembers the shoddy port of GTA IV to the PC, it requred authenticating in THREE different services (Steam, Windows Live and Rockstar Cafe) before playing.

Ubi's servers, login services and matchmaking apps for multiplayer games have worked pretty miserably for me in the past, and such a service simply can't compete with Steam. It's bound to fail at some point.

But of course they couldn't stop there: they also want to host our savegames, and to check for activation upon every launch.


:agree:

BootsmanBoof 01-29-10 01:31 PM

I won't be getting it. :cry:

I hate BS setups like that. I'm a Total War nut and yet I never got Empire because it uses Steam. I'm a grown man with a job who doesn't need to steal, I buy all my games, and I like a clean pc with only what I want on it. No 3rd party game nanny bollocks please.

I'm terribly disappointed now.

GWX it is for at least the foreseeable future.

Quote:

Wait for UBI to remove the online DRM!


I won't be actively waiting, that would drive me nuts. I'll just forget the game completely, and recheck this forum in around 2012/2013.

petherf 01-29-10 03:06 PM

I Vote for the :"Makes no difference to me"
I Didnt know wath the DRM was!
But now when i read the posts in the forum, I dont like it, my logbook is online with my carier?
I have pre order the game and i go with that!
Sorry for my poor Enhlish ,but it*s 40 years sins i was in school!
petherf

But i understood everything you write

Is in it a wonderful world!
I have silent hunter 1, 2,3,4
It cost 349 sek, and it s not so mutch !

karamazovnew 01-29-10 03:17 PM

34,450 dollars lost so far... :hmmm: It's like watching a BMW hitting Chuck Norris' forehead at 300 kph. A full-option 3 Series BMW with full options to be more exact.

GlobalExplorer 01-29-10 03:27 PM

Will the new DRM affect your SH5 purchase?

Most def.

petherf 01-29-10 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer (Post 1251662)
Will the new DRM affect your SH5 purchase?

Most def.

If you read my post.
NO IT WILL NOT
It *s not the money
I Will bought it Anyway!

karamazovnew 01-29-10 03:44 PM

GlobalExplorer, how dare you post a reply that has nothing to do with Petherf's first post?!!!!! :haha:

GerritJ9 01-29-10 04:01 PM

I bought Storm Eagle Studios "Jutland" and while I like the game itself, I definitely do NOT like their DRM system one bit. So I will NEVER buy any other sim with such a system, no matter how good it is. SES shot themselves in the foot as far as I'm concerned and it looks like UBI will too.

tonschk 01-29-10 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petherf (Post 1251629)
I Vote for the :"Makes no difference to me"
I Didnt know wath the DRM was!
But now when i read the posts in the forum, I dont like it, my logbook is online with my carier?
I have pre order the game and i go with that!
Sorry for my poor Enhlish ,but it*s 40 years sins i was in school!
petherf


Is in it a wonderful world!
I have silent hunter 1, 2,3,4
It cost 349 sek, and it s not so mutch !


The Silent Hunter 3/4 game is the ONLY one game I play for YEARS again and again , I don't like first person shooter games and Colin McRae DIRD soon become boring , therefore , I will buy without a doubt Silent Hunter 5
:DL




.

Sevrin 01-29-10 04:27 PM

Nope
 
Nope.


My initial reaction to SH5 was "I have a bad feeling about this"... Something just seemed 'wrong', maybe it was the RPG element they wanted to introduce, or that bizarre trailer - who knows...but this DRM nonsense? Unbelievable. I need to log-on, authenticate, have my games saved to an outside server in order to play...a sub simulation?

Wtf? Gary Busey makes more sense than that...

And I'm sure it would be especially gratifying to spend countless time stalking, evading, getting into position, setting up the shot...only to drop connection... :woot:

There have been a lot of angry apocalyptic "this will signal the end of the SH fanchise 4ever!!111!!" posts over the years, but this time it may actually ring true...

:zzz:

Mikhayl 01-29-10 04:29 PM

Poll trend for the "Makes no difference to me" response:
-with 100 voters: ~20%
-with 400 voters: ~17.5%
-with ~550 voters: 14%
-with 700 voters: 12%

a similar poll on the German Ubi forum:
http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/...wpollresults/Y

right now 162 votes, 12% favourable to the DRM/OSP.

ryanglavin 01-29-10 04:54 PM

Personally, I'll still buy the game... But the DRM in my opinion is complete ass-facey. Digital Rights Management is another way for companies to control you, gotta love video gaming communism. I just hope they'll get rid of the DRM, well time to reinstall gwx 3.0 gold after i got my new computer, can't wait for that at least!

I just hope the devs can pull through this.. but I just don't want to see the fall... I have a feeling thats coming... Oh gosh i don't like the look of this.

Bubblehead1980 01-29-10 05:24 PM

Although I am not a big fan of U Boats, I planned to purchase SH 5 to support the franchise and hope for a return to the PTO in SH 6 minus the bugs, inaccuracies and shortcuts.However, if this DRM nonsense is true in the final version, I will NOT buy the game.I hope UBI is listening, I don't care if it delays the release, they need to remove that BS.RyanGlavin said it best, video game communism.

Wolfehunter 01-29-10 05:30 PM

I'm not going to buy the game. I don't have money to waste. I have to make hard choices on the games that I feel give me value and enjoyment for the $$$.

I don't like what I read in the interview with ubi's intentions to the game. I really don't like the DRM scheme. But I know I'm one man and I don't do much damaged to ubi's sales. I'm sure there will find there market in the console world.

Good for them.. and good riddance. ;)


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