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Tomi_099 08-28-07 05:11 AM

Flag scaling
 
Hello people!!
To me someone can say as I with hexeditor the Flag scaling can.

:know:
@Mr.Racerboy
With what for Program do you make the Animation ???

Thanks

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr 08-28-07 06:18 AM

looks all cool and such. but its missing somthing... :hmm:
"looks at the picture. then looks at Racerboy's picture"

sure there is somthing missing :hmm:

http://www.hmsdunedin.co.uk/Fall%201...%20Lorient.jpg

mountainmanUK 08-28-07 06:25 AM

Yes......I think the "beta" pennants look a little too stiff and wired! (A bit like those WW1 Flyers scarves!).
If you could make them look more like they are hanging rather than sticking straight out at right angles, that would look better.
Also, possibly a little wider and shorter, as in that last photograph.
I don't know if you could simulate the effect of them being tied to a halyard (thin rope), as in the last pic, but that would be so cool!

Keep up the great work, Racerboy.......you ARE getting there mate!!:D

TheDarkWraith 08-28-07 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainmanUK
Yes......I think the "beta" pennants look a little too stiff and wired! (A bit like those WW1 Flyers scarves!).
If you could make them look more like they are hanging rather than sticking straight out at right angles, that would look better.
Also, possibly a little wider and shorter, as in that last photograph.
I don't know if you could simulate the effect of them being tied to a halyard (thin rope), as in the last pic, but that would be so cool!

Keep up the great work, Racerboy.......you ARE getting there mate!!:D

I will make them a little wider and shorter. This is the feedback I was looking for. :yep: I will make a halyard for them to be attached to also. This will take some time but it's doable. :|\\
Should the pennants be moved to the Observation scope or should they stay on the attack scope? Or should there be pennants on both? How many total number of pennants should be on each scope? I have to design in a total number per scope that way they are usable. That doesn't mean that they will be visible, just available.

TheDarkWraith 08-28-07 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi_099
Hello people!!
To me someone can say as I with hexeditor the Flag scaling can.

:know:
@Mr.Racerboy
With what for Program do you make the Animation ???

Thanks

A hexeditor isn't going to get you a scaled flag. If you do that you will get animation problems with it (look at SSB's flag and you'll see what I mean). You have to edit all 25 keyframes @ 70 vertices per keyframe @ 3 hex values per vertice to get it right.
I make animations with Wings3D, hex editor, Pack3D, and my unreleased Silent Animator app. I use Wings3D to make the keyframes from the original 3D model. Then I use Silent Animator to add the keyframes to the file. Then I use the hex editor to add and adjust the timing values needed for the keyframes. A little complicated but nothing major.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr 08-28-07 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerboy
Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainmanUK
Yes......I think the "beta" pennants look a little too stiff and wired! (A bit like those WW1 Flyers scarves!).
If you could make them look more like they are hanging rather than sticking straight out at right angles, that would look better.
Also, possibly a little wider and shorter, as in that last photograph.
I don't know if you could simulate the effect of them being tied to a halyard (thin rope), as in the last pic, but that would be so cool!

Keep up the great work, Racerboy.......you ARE getting there mate!!:D

I will make them a little wider and shorter. This is the feedback I was looking for. :yep: I will make a halyard for them to be attached to also. This will take some time but it's doable. :|\\
Should the pennants be moved to the Observation scope or should they stay on the attack scope? Or should there be pennants on both? How many total number of pennants should be on each scope? I have to design in a total number per scope that way they are usable. That doesn't mean that they will be visible, just available.

try 8 on the observation scope ;)
most ppl dont use that one anyway

TheDarkWraith 08-28-07 08:54 AM

sounds good. 8 on the observation scope and none on the attack scope. Will make it happen! :yep:

mountainmanUK 08-28-07 08:55 AM

Obviously the maximum number of pennants that you could have would depend on the sizing in relation to the available height of the Obs scope!

I guess around 8 maximum would be enough....most patrols would need much less than 8!

I think the animation of the pennants would probably more of a "lazy fluttering" than that of the larger combat flag, still with more of a "hanging" effect.

I agree that the Obs scope is probably best, as most people wouldn't normally use this anyway, especially when returning to port!!

Keep at it!!!;)

Johann Vilthomsen 08-28-07 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerboy
Here is the promised screenie of the flags and pennants:

http://static.filefront.com/images/p...rdpcegmdza.jpg

Racerboy, this picture looks great!!!! :o

lutzow 08-28-07 02:00 PM

...W O W !!!!!!
Could someone help me to close my jaw? (thank you)
THIS is FANTASTIC and UNBELIEVABLE.

TheDarkWraith 08-30-07 01:20 PM

Halyard line added and pennants redone to show wind force acting on them and halyard line. 8 pennants total attached to the observation scope. How does this look?

http://static.filefront.com/images/p...qvoduhkwto.jpg

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr 08-30-07 01:27 PM

:huh: :o :eek:

amazing :rock:

java`s revenge 08-30-07 01:33 PM

This is really great!!!

Ubåtskapten 08-30-07 01:35 PM

Looks really great!:D:up::up:

AtlantikEel 08-30-07 02:06 PM

WOW! :up:




(Just for information, Flakmonkey's "twistyperiscopethingy" mod overrides your flag mod, or at least it does when I try to use them together. :cry: )


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