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Rockstar 10-25-24 08:22 AM

Correct me if I’m wrong but this looks very similar to the way things operate over here. Certain members present a budget knowing full well that Social Democrats would not approve of . So those certain members attached to the budget bill the part about terror books’. To make it seem that’s what Social Democrats are voting against thereby making them out to be the bad guy for not passing the bill which is mainly about the budget.


EU politicians do NOT want to change terror textbooks


https://m.bild.de/politik/ausland-un...f74343c4c91ef5

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Textbooks that call for hatred and incitement are so important to the European Social Democrats that they even jeopardize the budget negotiations.

Actually a matter of course: After all, the EU has also committed itself to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, but Palestinian children have been indoctrinated for years with anti-Semitic incitement – in educational institutions and by teachers financed by the EU.

Herbst has therefore been calling for years for an adjustment of the teaching materials, otherwise the funding should be stopped and other aid organizations for Palestinians should benefit instead of the Palestinian Authority.

But above all the Social Democrats, many Greens and the Leftists, insist that Palestinian children continue to be educated to hate Jews: Herbst's motion became a hook to stop the entire resolution on the budget.

"The rejection of the entire budget resolution by the Social Democrats because of our motion against hatred and incitement in Palestinian textbooks is completely incomprehensible," Niclas Herbst told BILD.

This shows that parts of the EU Parliament are not about the matter and certainly not about the Palestinian schoolchildren, instead they act according to the motto: "The main thing is against Israel!"

"It is shameful that Social Democrats, the Greens and Volt, who always claim to defend fundamental rights, reject the removal of anti-Semitic content from a textbook," criticizes MP Moritz Körner (34, FDP). "This double standard is indicative and the underlying motive is worth questioning."

The cycle of hatred in the region can only be broken by "ending the doctrine of hatred".

Dargo 10-25-24 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2930584)
Correct me if I’m wrong but this looks very similar to the way things operate over here. Certain members present a budget knowing full well that Social Democrats would not approve of . So those certain members attached to the budget bill the part about terror books’. To make it seem that’s what Social Democrats are voting against thereby making them out to be the bad guy for not passing the bill which is mainly about the budget.


EU politicians do NOT want to change terror textbooks


https://m.bild.de/politik/ausland-un...f74343c4c91ef5

Bild or Bild-Zeitung is a German tabloid newspaper

mapuc 10-25-24 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2930586)
Bild or Bild-Zeitung is a German tabloid newspaper

Maybe so, What I wonder is Rockstar wrong ?

Markus

Skybird 10-25-24 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2930586)
Bild or Bild-Zeitung is a German tabloid newspaper

That like any other tabloid occasionally hits the correct marks.

The question is: are the raised claims true? Well, in this case: as far as I can tell, yes.


Shooting the messenger is unneeded. The message he carries is the relevant thing. As long as your real intention is not to discredit the message's content by implying the messenger inked said message himself.

Skybird 10-26-24 07:32 AM

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp

In reality, the German welfare state functions like an institutionalized shell game. What is often overlooked in all debates is that 40 percent of your salary is gone before the tax office can even get hold of it. This tax is not called tax, but social security contributions, which admittedly sounds nicer, but amounts to the same thing.
The fact that most people have no idea that 40 percent of their wages are deducted is due to a accounting trick. Half of the deductions are simply shown as the employer's share. This makes it look on the pay slip as if the costs are shared. But of course that's nonsense. No employer has anything to give away. If there weren't 40 percent social costs, the gross wage would be correspondingly higher. 2400 euros would suddenly become 4000 euros. 4500 euros would suddenly become 7500 euros.
I would think that a state that collects a trillion euros in taxes a year has enough money. If in doubt, it can even afford a number of extravagances. If politicians still talk about an emergency, it is because they are throwing money out the window even faster than it is coming in through the door.

Skybird 10-28-24 06:37 AM

Accoding to a paper VW will close 3 plants in Germany - at minimum, and lay off 30,000 in Germany. Wages of all other employees should get cut. It was known that something was in the making. But its bigger than assumed.

VW has 10 construction plants in Germany, and 120,000 employees. There are 10 plants and 120,000 employees in Germany.

Bravo Greens. Bravo SPD. Bravo EU. Your insanity is real people's misery. Your plans are real people's fall.

The self-inflicted German crisis is like Alien blood. It eats relentlessly through ecnomy layer for ecomnmy layer like a molecular acid and decomposes everything in its path.

Forget Germany.

Jimbuna 10-28-24 08:56 AM

^ Sounds very much like what the new Labour government is going to do in the UK

Shadowblade 10-28-24 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2930927)
Accoding to a paper VW will close 3 plants in Germany - at minimum, and lay off 30,000 in Germany. Wages of all other employees should get cut. It was known that something was in the making. But its bigger than assumed.

VW has 10 construction plants in Germany, and 120,000 employees. There are 10 plants and 120,000 employees in Germany.

Bravo Greens. Bravo SPD. Bravo EU. Your insanity is real people's misery. Your plans are real people's fall.

The self-inflicted German crisis is like Alien blood. It eats relentlessly through ecnomy layer for ecomnmy layer like a molecular acid and decomposes everything in its path.

Forget Germany.


greendeal in action - to kill industry in Europe

Dargo 10-28-24 01:23 PM

Competition from China in particular now is cut-throat, China is capable of building electric cars that German carmakers cannot make at all. At a much lower price, it will be difficult for German brands to catch up with this technological gap. The Dieselgate scandal cost 30 billion euros and is a waste of money. In addition, VW entered electric driving far too late, making it increasingly difficult to compete with China. When it comes to electric driving, Volkswagen is not accessible to the middle class. If they only have cars that cost more than 30,000 or 40,000 euros, it becomes difficult to penetrate the market, there has to be a solution to that. The last 10 years have seen a huge gap in international competitiveness. And that is the fault of industry, not just politics.

There have hardly been any reforms in the last 10–15 years. The war in Ukraine has added to this, the energy crisis. Germany has focused too much on globalisation and old industries. That is the wrong focus in the world we live in today. Germany needs to transform itself into an economy of tomorrow, away from heavy industry and towards new technologies. The country must reduce its dependence on the rest of the world and focus more on the European market with its huge potential to allocate more money for necessary investments such as more investment in education, AI, infrastructure and less bureaucracy. The core industries that need to be secured and expanded are engineering, automotive, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, ICT and metal and electrical. There are also a number of promising future technologies for Germany including wind power, grid technology, heat pumps, heat generation from green electricity, hydrogen, industrial AI applications, robotics and health technologies.

One of the things that absolutely must be changed is the so-called Schuldenbremse, which almost prohibits the German government from running budget deficits. That makes no sense at all. As a government, why limit your own financial freedom?

Skybird 10-28-24 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowblade (Post 2930951)
greendeal in action - to kill industry in Europe

Yes, that indeed is the intention by many ideologists in the Greens' camp. Not only have I pointed this out many times since years again and again, that the econmic damage done is deliberately wanted by certain circles of the Greens and lefties, but we know of many names that Habeck has brought into his inner circle that they expected these damages and social conflicts, and that they see them as costs for the wanted deindustrialization, and that they do niot care, see them as necessary sacrifices we have to make.

Please...?

Really, I say since years that the deindustrialization is the plan, is the goal, is what they want since many years. It all makes sense if you give up the idea that they did not forsee the results of their assumed incompetent policy, and start understand that the symptoms we see today are not random side effects, but their goal they aimed for. Then their policy all of a sudden makes an horrifying lot of sense.

Heck, I wrote something like that already in a scandalous school exam when I was 15 or 16, 1982 or 1983 I think, that is over fourty years ago! It got me into trouble with the principal and the ultra left teacher, and they demanded that my Mum came and picked me up so that they could lecture her on what went wrong with her education. My Mum defended me and let them run aground, ice-cold (Bravo Mum!). The principal grinned secretly, he was not that bad at all, was a bit in a dilemma. The teacher turned even angrier, but had to swallow her anger. I got an F for the exam paper and a D for the end note of that semester. Damn basterd, hope she is dead since long.

This long already I dispise the Greens. :03: Schlimmer als Hundekacke an den Schuhen.

Skybird 10-28-24 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2930999)
Competition from China in particular now is cut-throat, China is capable of building electric cars that German carmakers cannot make at all. At a much lower price, it will be difficult for German brands to catch up with this technological gap. The Dieselgate scandal cost 30 billion euros and is a waste of money. In addition, VW entered electric driving far too late, making it increasingly difficult to compete with China. When it comes to electric driving, Volkswagen is not accessible to the middle class. If they only have cars that cost more than 30,000 or 40,000 euros, it becomes difficult to penetrate the market, there has to be a solution to that. The last 10 years have seen a huge gap in international competitiveness. And that is the fault of industry, not just politics.

There have hardly been any reforms in the last 10–15 years. The war in Ukraine has added to this, the energy crisis. Germany has focused too much on globalisation and old industries. That is the wrong focus in the world we live in today. Germany needs to transform itself into an economy of tomorrow, away from heavy industry and towards new technologies. The country must reduce its dependence on the rest of the world and focus more on the European market with its huge potential to allocate more money for necessary investments such as more investment in education, AI, infrastructure and less bureaucracy. The core industries that need to be secured and expanded are engineering, automotive, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, ICT and metal and electrical. There are also a number of promising future technologies for Germany including wind power, grid technology, heat pumps, heat generation from green electricity, hydrogen, industrial AI applications, robotics and health technologies.

One of the things that absolutely must be changed is the so-called Schuldenbremse, which almost prohibits the German government from running budget deficits. That makes no sense at all. As a government, why limit your own financial freedom?

The Germans went for all e-mobility, and that was as stupid as was it suicidal, Germany in no way is prepared for that already, and will not be for many many more years to come. China and others did not give up other technologies like Germany did, China developes e-cars, but does not do them exclusively, so does Japan, Korea. They all are technology-open, Germany completely goes all in on unproven concepts and unproven technologies, without testing, experience and verification. That takes revenge. Energy costs three times a smuch as in other industrial nations, production is super-super expensive and the production goods are not competitive in their way too high selling prices, also the design and feature lists are such that Chinese people do not get attracted by German cars anymore. These cars by German brands are unaffordable for most ordinary families in Germany. The cars cost more in maintenance and repairs, much much more. They lose much of their value in very short time, if you want to resell them, you have to accept hurtingly high losses. Most e-cars in Germany are in the car fleets of companies - and they withdraw e-cars from their fleets for the listed reaons: they loose to much money with them.



For Germany, this all is a bullet-through-the-head policy.



They think and hope they still can catch the fleeing horses. I think they are wrong.



And the competition by China I do not even mention.



If I would need to buy a car now - at no cost would I buy a German. I would probably buy some Toyota, running on gasoline, one of those affordable models ranking so incredibly favourably in the comparison lists regarding damage probabilities. But I need none. Lucky me.


Forget Germany.

mapuc 10-29-24 02:56 PM

Could this be a helping hand to VW from EU ?

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Going forward, electric cars produced in China will be subject to tariffs of up to 45.3 percent when imported into countries within the EU.

The EU Commission adopted this on Tuesday, writes Reuters.

The EU already has a ten percent tariff on Chinese electric cars.

Following an investigation into Chinese state aid, the EU countries decided earlier in October that up to 35.3 percent additional duties should be imposed on electric cars from Chinese factories.
https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

Dargo 10-29-24 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2931112)
Could this be a helping hand to VW from EU ?



https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

Not really, China will respond with its own import tariffs on European products trade wars have never resulted in a win. BYD Auto Co is building a factory in Turkey, so those electric cars are not from China and face it German cars are too expensive, so they have driven themselves out of the market for affordable cars.

mapuc 10-29-24 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2931120)
Not really, China will respond with its own import tariffs on European products trade wars have never resulted in a win. BYD Auto Co is building a factory in Turkey, so those electric cars are not from China and face it German cars are too expensive, so they have driven themselves out of the market for affordable cars.

Same here in Denmark where you pay a lot for a new car Even here E-Cars from China is way cheaper than European ditto.

Markus

Dargo 10-29-24 04:03 PM

Volkswagen is caught in a perfect storm. Since the corona crisis, 500 thousand fewer cars are sold annually in Europe. Energy and raw material prices are rising because of the Ukraine war. China has changed from sales market to competitor. In 2019, Volkswagen sold 4.2 million cars in China; last year there were 3 million. Indeed, e-cars from Geely and BYD are taking European streets by storm. In 2022, car company Sixt, note from Stuttgart, bought as many as 100 thousand electric cars from Chinese BYD. Volkswagen has also made it a bit itself, they were living on big feet, Volkswagen is still making very good profits, the problems are a bit exaggerated. They need to slim down healthily, but that doesn't mean the place is closing down.


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