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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2798922)

Damn Neal, You surprise me America and it's politicians for decades have been making the right decisions haven't they. So now you advocate the United States and all of its allies. Ramp up the conflict with Russia over a country that we know to be corrupt. The son of our current president was under suspicion of being bought.

Gorpet and everyone else here if you want a start answering “why”? Then I STRONGLY suggest a book published in 1997. Yes it was several years ago but it is not outdated as one might might think. It will help you get a grasp on what is going on globally and the importance of Ukraine.

The book The Grand Chess Board by Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzeziński you can pick it on Amazon for a few bucks. You need to search these things out for yourself only idiots rely on the latest Trump, Biden, Russians killing puppies headlines. If you want to know why the U.S. and U.K. send arms to Ukraine so they can defend their homeland read the book. There is much at stake.

Yeah...Disinformation is a powerful thing...
the whole world remembers Colin Powell's test tube at the UN...

Hehe, you are late, Rockie, I recommended that book already during the Gulf war 2003. :O:

Zbigniev and Kissinger. The twin oracles of ~~Delphi~~Washington...

Well, this war is probably the best documented live war so far, thanks to social media and smartphone cams.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...equipment.html

Russian losses:

Russia - 1378, of which: destroyed: 597, damaged: 20, abandoned: 211, captured: 550

Ukrainian losses:

Ukraine - 362, of which: destroyed: 135, damaged: 5, abandoned: 48, captured: 174

No, I do not think thes enumbers are compelte. These numbers are what they were able to verify so far.

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Originally Posted by astvitaliy1982 (Post 2799081)

Yeah...Disinformation is a powerful thing...
the whole world remembers Colin Powell's test tube at the UN...

Oh we all know what to think about America, if you think that makes Putin better?
Remember his action falls back on whole Russia.

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Originally Posted by astvitaliy1982 (Post 2799081)

Yeah...Disinformation is a powerful thing...
the whole world remembers Colin Powell's test tube at the UN...

Touché :haha:

But just an FYI I already made that comparison. :salute:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=2067

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Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman (Post 2799073)

Russian Navy Landing Ships Seen Approaching Ukrainian Coast Near Odessa

https://www.navalnews.com/wp-content...ssa-Mar-15.jpg

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...t-near-odessa/

I don't guess we sent Ukraine any surface to sea Harpoon systems? Looks to be in range

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2799089)

I don't guess we sent Ukraine any surface to sea Harpoon systems? Looks to be in range

They have this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune_(cruise_missile)

Markus

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2799089)

I don't guess we sent Ukraine any surface to sea Harpoon systems? Looks to be in range

If true, I feel sorry for those Russians. IMO it’s outdated tactics, I mean assuming Ukraine has access to the weapon systems it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

Ukraine's coast has been heavily targeted by russian ships recently.

Time for Ukraine to target Sevastopol?

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2799092)

If true, I feel sorry for those Russians. IMO it’s outdated tactics, I mean assuming Ukraine has access to the weapon systems it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

My first wiki link was a dead end.

So here is another more reliable link

https://www.overtdefense.com/2022/01...-ship-missile/

Ukrainian has their own ASM.

Markus

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2799060)

I thought the fine was for her prerecorded video and she still faces charges for her news show event..

That may well be the case as well. She could face more charges for " her Crimes. "

It's really hard at this point to figure out how Putin and his cronies will act. I'm sure they are thinking it through. I'm sure it's safe to say that her journalism career is over. She has some nerve though, telling the truth on TV. Who ever heard of such a thing. :shifty:

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Originally Posted by Commander Wallace (Post 2799097)

I suspect she'll get some years for her other charges and suffer terribly in prison and finally done away with. Putin has no problem poisoning people

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Originally Posted by astvitaliy1982 (Post 2799068)

Hi, I want to ask, has anyone among you fought in hot spots?
I'm sure it is. Then you know what is the power of correct and
timely information in the war and what is the power of the correct
presentation of information to the population of your country.

And what is the power of Disinformation?

I will not write much, I will give just one case.
(just concerning the conflict in Ukraine).

The day before yesterday, a Tochka-U missile struck the center of my city
of Donetsk (DPR) from the territory of Ukraine. 23 people were killed
and about 30 injured. Earlier I wrote about smaller victims,
but now they are exactly like that. The blow was struck from
Ukraine. (from the area of the city of Krasnoarmeysk).

An hour after the incident, I go to the social networks
of the Telegram application and watch the news.
- In Kiev! A missile strike was launched by Russia.
And attached are photos of dead civilians and a child from my Donetsk.

According to your news, it was not shown at all...

The next evening (yesterday), another Tochka-U rocket flew to us.
To the city of Makeyevka (you can say this is a continuation of the city of Donetsk)
Guess from where?) From Ukraine... People were killed and three children were severely injured...

You don't know anything about it either...

The missiles were shot down in the air but had cluster charges.
It was these remnants of cassettes that killed people.

P. S. Yesterday it was the sixteenth Tochka- U missile shot down over the city
For the last two and a half weeks...

Luckily, we have you here to give us first hand information on events in the Ukraine. This beats news stories that may well be false or slanted or biased.

As far as military experience, there are more than a few here that have served in the military and fought in difficult times. One thing is certain, Russian seriously underestimated the amount of fight in the Ukrainian people.

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2799096)

My first wiki link was a dead end.

So here is another more reliable link

https://www.overtdefense.com/2022/01...-ship-missile/

Ukrainian has their own ASM.

Markus

Hopefully they'll get to use them and send those ships to the bottom. Hear the water is really cold this time of year

"One who wishes to fight, must first count the cost."