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Jimbuna 10-19-24 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2929759)
Oh you dog.:up:: I like Viktor Orbán, Im sure he has a higher IQ ,He want's What's best for his country.! Where is your King ?

Currently in Australia actually.

Rockstar 10-21-24 06:49 AM

LOL Don’t agree with us then we will shut you up by banning your political party. Now that’s kind of democracy in action we haven’t heard since 1939.

Is history repeating with banning and silencing another party?

But why bother with just the AfD, tell them all to shut-up, ban all parties and leave just the correct one ordained by god and his holy angles with the ‘true’ democratic values, it is not like it is something unheard in the World. It’s frightening the extremes people will go to get others to shut-up.

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A group of 37 German lawmakers has announced their intention to seek a ban on the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

These lawmakers represent 5% of parliament, the minimum required to advance their initiative to a parliamentary vote. If successful, the case will then go before the Federal Constitutional Court.

The lawmakers argue that the AfD poses a threat to Germany's democracy.

Marco Wanderwitz of the CDU warned of the dangers of allowing a party with extremist ties to gain power, citing the rise of the Nazi Party in the 1930s. He emphasized the need to prevent such a scenario from repeating.

Carmen Wegge, a member of the center-left Social Democrats (SPD), echoed these concerns, highlighting that democracy in Germany had been destroyed by democratic means in the past. She stressed the importance of learning from history to avoid a similar fate.
Order of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State

On the basis of Article 48 paragraph 2 of the Constitution of the German Reich, the following is ordered in defense against Communist state-endangering acts of violence:

§ 1. Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of (opinion) expression, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Warrants for House searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

Catfish 10-21-24 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2929978)
§ 1. Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of (opinion) expression, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Warrants for House searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

Lol which is exactly what Hungary's Orban tries, just like Erdoghan :yep:

Dargo 10-21-24 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2929978)
LOL Don’t agree with us then we will shut you up by banning your political party. Now that’s kind of democracy in action we haven’t heard since 1939.

Is history repeating with banning and silencing another party?

But why bother with just the AfD, tell them all to shut-up, ban all parties and leave just the correct one ordained by god and his holy angles with the ‘true’ democratic values, it is not like it is something unheard in the World. It’s frightening the extremes people will go to get people to shut-up.



Order of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State

On the basis of Article 48 paragraph 2 of the Constitution of the German Reich, the following is ordered in defense against Communist state-endangering acts of violence:

§ 1. Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of (opinion) expression, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Warrants for House searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

The current version of the Basic Law (Grundgesetz) of 23 May 1949 is the constitution of the Federal Republic of Germany. https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/

Björn Höcke, leader of the AfD parliamentary group in Thuringia, must pay a €13,000 fine for using a banned Nazi slogan. This was ruled by a court in Saxony-Anhalt, where Höcke made the ruling in 2021. Two investigations are still ongoing against Höcke that could lead to lawsuits: one for using the same SA slogan in Gera (Thuringia) in December 2023. Then he put the slogan back on stage, but let the audience shout the last word. In January this year, he allegedly made inflammatory statements during a speech, also in Gera. The prosecution is also investigating that.

It was the meeting that nobody was ever meant to find out about. Back in November, high-ranking politicians from Germany’s far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party, neo-Nazis, and sympathetic businesspeople gathered in a hotel near Potsdam. Their agenda? Nothing less than the fine tuning of a plan for the forced deportations of millions of people currently living in Germany.

Skybird 10-21-24 10:39 AM

Dargo, the meeting in Potsdam and the scandal they made out of it, has completely collapsed. The - left-installed - investigator (=lobby) network “Correctiv” has now lost several lawsuits in which an accused CDU politician successfully defended himself against lies, defamation and false allegations, and either the Office for the Protection of the Constitution or the Ministry of the Interior (can't remember exactly) was also ordered to cease and desist. There was no case. There is an ongoing smear campaign. Thats two very different things.

You can certainly argue a lot against the AfD, but this example is very unfortunate and confirms the AfD's victim narrative and the AfD battle cry "Lügenpresse!"

There is currently at least one further lawsuit by the falsely denigrated CDU man against the ministry, as the latter is not complying despite a court order to cease and desist. It ignores the court's sentence, that is. A violation of the legal order of the state, that is. There is practically no doubt he will win this case, too.

And the AfD ? Grew out of this strengthened again.

Want to go after the AfD? Go ahead, but use better suited examples. This one is a "Rohrkrepierer", and two court sentences confirm it is. ;) Means the opinion police's gun exploded right in your face. Ouch!

Gorpet 10-23-24 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2929762)
His name is Jim and not some name calling.

Markus

Well here in the southern parts of the USA. Saying to someone "Oh you dog" is acknowledgement in conversation that can be construed as respect.

mapuc 10-23-24 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2930365)
Well here in the southern parts of the USA. Saying to someone "Oh you dog" is acknowledgement in conversation that can be construed as respect.

Oh I didn't know that-Forget my comment.

Markus

Gorpet 10-23-24 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2930367)
Oh I didn't know that-Forget my comment.

Markus

It's all good. Markus

Gorpet 10-23-24 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2929785)
Currently in Australia actually.

The world is changing.

Dargo 10-23-24 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2930365)
Well here in the southern parts of the USA. Saying to someone "Oh you dog" is acknowledgement in conversation that can be construed as respect.

But we are in the subsim forum so do comply to subsim ethics not southern parts of the US ethics.

Rockstar 10-23-24 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2930365)
Well here in the southern parts of the USA. Saying to someone "Oh you dog" is acknowledgement in conversation that can be construed as respect.


Agreed though it may be heard as ‘dog’ by some. What you are trying to convey is normally written as ‘dawg’ Such as yo dawg, wazzup dawg, help me out dawg, you dirty dawg. Even when calling a dog we might say c’mere dawg. Look it up dawg it’s in the dictionary. :)

Gorpet 10-23-24 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2930370)
But we are in the subsim forum so do comply to subsim ethics not southern parts of the US ethics.

Do you want to elaborate on what subsim ethics are ? And how that works across all the geographical areas that members of subsim live in ?

Gorpet 10-23-24 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2930371)
Agreed though it may be heard as ‘dog’ by some. What you are trying to convey is normally written as ‘dawg’ Such as yo dawg, wazzup dawg, help me out dawg, you dirty dawg. Even when calling a dog we might say c’mere dawg. Look it up dawg it’s in the dictionary. :)

Well you have your way, and we have our way. I guess it depends.dawg, rather than dog, may be used to emphasise dialect.

Dargo 10-23-24 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2930372)
Do you want to elaborate on what subsim ethics are ? And how that works across all the geographical areas that members of subsim live in ?

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq...faq_ad_hominem
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq..._item_language

Gorpet 10-23-24 06:11 PM

Look, If i get out of bounds Neal or Jimbuna can Keelhaul me.:up: But not you.


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