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Dargo 01-06-24 07:11 AM

South Korea says the North has again fired artillery shells near their sea border

SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea conducted a new round of artillery drills near the disputed sea boundary with South Korea on Saturday, officials in Seoul said, a day after the North's earlier exercises prompted South Korea to respond with its own drills in the same area. South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement the North fired more than 60 rounds near the western sea boundary on Saturday afternoon. It said South Korea strongly urges North Korea to halt acts that heighten tensions. https://abcnews.go.com/International...rder-106155340

Putin surely can trust his cronies to open a third front! Can all hope this backfires on the Kremlin.

Jimbuna 01-06-24 07:21 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Anfc7itnc

Jimbuna 01-06-24 07:32 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8vk52Xn91U

Dargo 01-06-24 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2898320)

This did not happen NAFO started this rumour :D
https://i.postimg.cc/L4Lvhthf/rumour.jpg

Skybird 01-06-24 08:07 AM

It would be bad if Gerasimov would have been killed, because then there is a chance that he will be repalced with a general who is more competent and starts to reduce Russian losses.

Dargo 01-06-24 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2898326)
It would be bad if Gerasimov would have been killed, because then there is a chance that he will be repalced with a general who is more competent and starts to reduce Russian losses.

Worse will happen change it will escalate becomes a fact then. Whole Russian telegram went crazy about this LOL

Dargo 01-06-24 09:11 AM

At last, wives of mobilized men picketed in Moscow and St Petersburg demanding that their husbands be returned home is a significant development, considering the restrictions on dissent in Russia regarding the war. Relatives of mobilized men are now regularly gathering and laying flowers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Moscow. They are wearing white headscarves inspired by the relatives of the disappeared in Argentina.

mapuc 01-06-24 11:51 AM

Some thoughts based on the latest comment.

Would it make any different if Russia install a better general after the dead of Gerasimov ?

Can't remember where I have heard/read following
The amount of military supply from North Korea is more than what NATO countries is sending in combined and to this Iran have to be added as a country who is supporting Russia with Military supply too.

It's time for us in the west to take a standpoint-Whether we want Ukraine to win the war or not.

Because the amount we are shipping to Ukraine is far, far from enough.
Ukraine is also lacking manpower-They need around 500.000 soldiers

Markus

Dargo 01-06-24 12:26 PM

Putin as many dictators do not want capable men Gerasimov got this job because he is loyal do not think any Russian can do it better. Generalissimo Putin is the best and has it always right in this sandkasten spiel. With all the support, Russia gained 0,01% this year it loses in weeks months production even with the pariah supporters how longer this will go on how worse it will get for Russia these lose (not the personnel) Putin can not replace. All the elite army is basically gone disabled or dead, same for the training cadre, the supply problem is still there, so fast-forward movement is not possible they can send waves of people to their certain dead but with the Abrams they run into a wall of lead. Even with the shortages, Ukraine is on the moment boss in this attrition trend is they hurt the Russian more than Russia is able to replace if they get their active defence, deep defence in order they can keep beating the Russians for a long time I am not worried.

Dargo 01-06-24 01:03 PM

In 2023, Ukraine Air Force destroyed, 3800 Russian air targets:
- 887 cruise missiles;
- 15 Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles;
- 41 other ballistic missiles;
- 2691 Shahed UAVs;
- 35 Lancet drones;
- 131 Orlan and other drones.
https://i.postimg.cc/pdcRT5rg/Airdukr.jpg

Jimbuna 01-06-24 01:35 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bxMTIV1qMs

Skybird 01-06-24 05:22 PM

https://www-faz-net.translate.goog/a...pp#pageIndex_3


She says the Russian economy will stay stable for another 1-2 years before signs for the overheating will start to nibble it kaputt, and that process again will take longer time, leads not to a sudden total collapse. I said in past posts that in the forseeable future (I had 3-4 years on mind when saying that, maybe even 5, but that needs pro-Russian optimism) the Russian economy will not be at risk of "collapsing". Lets take the average and estimate that Russia'S economy can sustain the war effort as it is for another 2-3 years, maybe longer.



I fear that is longer than Ukraine's "structural integrity" (yes, i have a fetish for this SciFi term) can endure this ammount of destruction it suffers. Last winter 50-65% of the critical infrastructure of Ukraine got destroyed, of which it was able to repair by improvisation around 15%, the Russians destroyed this winter already a bit more than the whole last winter, just that the level of Ukraine already was degraded early this winter so the damage already now must be MUCH higher, and will mount even further until end of winter season. All this in a time when Russia increases the availability of missile quantities, drones, and intensifies its attacks to destroy critical infrastructure and defence production. With Ukraine facing mounting problems with supplies granted form the West. Not good.



It would therefor be a mistake to hope that Russia's war effort will diminish due to economic fractures before Ukraine goes down the drain. It most likely will not happen this way. Chances are clearly that Ukraine runs out of breath before it could happen.



If Trump wins, it could lead to the end of NATO. Berlin is completely unprepared for this and is completely unwilling to even consider this - absolutely possible - scenario. And this while Europe clearly needs to take over the case of supporting Ukraine for the US.



Europe is totally failing. And the German and French policy-making borders active siding with and assistance for Russia. Even the US is too carefully avoiding to give Ukraine anything that could really hurt Russia'S war interest.



If the West does not dramatically increase its support for Ukraine, Russia will win.

mapuc 01-06-24 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2898387)
If the West does not dramatically increase its support for Ukraine, Russia will win.

As I wrote in my last post

"It's time for us in the west to take a standpoint-Whether we want Ukraine to win the war or not"

Markus

Dargo 01-06-24 06:17 PM

Most recently, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024, enacted on December 22, 2023, prohibits the President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO without approval of a two-third Senate super-majority or an act of Congress. This bill was a response to Donald Trump's repeated expressions of interest in withdrawing from the organization

mapuc 01-06-24 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2898396)
Most recently, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024, enacted on December 22, 2023, prohibits the President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO without approval of a two-third Senate super-majority or an act of Congress. This bill was a response to Donald Trump's repeated expressions of interest in withdrawing from the organization

USA are not going to leave NATO, what I predict as some of you have too, is that they are changing their concentration to Middle East and Asia(China-Taiwan)

Markus


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