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Torvald Von Mansee 06-26-15 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2140992)
Not a fix, just a gamble, hoping to distract sheep with other things.

Like the Kochs and Waltons ravaging the entire country?

August 06-26-15 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 2324282)
the ruling is right in the mainstream of case law. It is standard to look at the context and object of the law when interpreting particular provisions, so nothing unusual there.

In a larger sense, what the Court is once again saying is that this is a political problem and it is up to voters and Congress to fix it, not the Supreme Court.

This is a narrow ruling, since it only applies to the interpretation of that section as written, Congress is, of course, free to amend the law to explicitely provide that no one will get federal subsidies in states that have not set up their own exchanges...if they so wish...:ping:


This ^

Wolferz 06-27-15 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 2324282)
the ruling is right in the mainstream of case law. It is standard to look at the context and object of the law when interpreting particular provisions, so nothing unusual there.

In a larger sense, what the Court is once again saying is that this is a political problem and it is up to voters and Congress to fix it, not the Supreme Court.

This is a narrow ruling, since it only applies to the interpretation of that section as written, Congress is, of course, free to amend the law to explicitely provide that no one will get federal subsidies in states that have not set up their own exchanges...if they so wish...:ping:

Any senator or congress critter that goes along with that, will be out of a job in short order. Their built in loop hole kind of backfired on them, eh?:hmmm:

I think the IRS has been dragging their heels on the wife's refund until this case was decided.:down:

Compared to what she paid in insurance premiums for the six months prior to her 65th birthday, the subsidy is a joke anyway.

August 06-27-15 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2324632)
Their built in loop hole kind of backfired on them, eh?:hmmm:

Who's built in loop hole?

Wolferz 06-27-15 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2324638)
Who's built in loop hole?

Congress of course!
They slipped that mickey in there in hopes of getting out of paying the subsidies and the ploy backfired.

Tchocky 06-27-15 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2324668)
Congress of course!
They slipped that mickey in there in hopes of getting out of paying the subsidies and the ploy backfired.


.........no.

1 - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rom-obamacare/

2 - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...something.html

August 06-27-15 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2324668)
Congress of course!
They slipped that mickey in there in hopes of getting out of paying the subsidies and the ploy backfired.

Well the Congress that wrote that legislation are not the same ones who wanted the suit to succeed.

vienna 06-27-15 07:18 PM

Next up is the GOP attempt to repeal Obamacare. It's not going to be easy; the GOP raised a big stink when they contended the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) findings of an increase in the deficit if Obamacare is repealed was due to the then Democratic CBO head futzing with the figures. So, they got him dumped and replaced him with Keith Hall, a former GW Bush Administration staffer. The end result has been Hall and the CBO have not only confirmed the "tainted" projection, but have also predicted a worse deficit impact. Careful, GOP, you seem to be doing a lot of self heiney shooting leading up to the 2016 elections...


http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...o-health-score


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