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Demon777 08-29-08 01:56 AM
Hi folks!
This environmental mod is certainly a good thing! Respect to its author!
However, I've noticed some things which seemed 'not quite correct':

1. When the sea is a bit rough early in the morning, it has too much 'mirror effect'. It looks like shaders reproduce sub's shadow in almost every wave :)

2. When the weather is perfect and waters are glassy, smth. wrong happens.
In stock game you may watch ripples, but in this mod the waves (ripples) look less authentic (like bubbles); clouds' shadows sometimes appear in an ON-OFF maner.
It is clearly seen standing on the Bridge. Also, clouds shadows create the view as if submarine is moving fast sideways :roll:

P.S. Vol.fog is ON. As for other mods, I use sub's skins, Greenlamp, Sound mod and NSM4. Environmental mod is the last installed one.

P.P.S. W Clear, Is it necessary to install E48for47 ?

W_clear 08-29-08 04:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demon777
Hi folks!
This environmental mod is certainly a good thing! Respect to its author!
However, I've noticed some things which seemed 'not quite correct':

1. When the sea is a bit rough early in the morning, it has too much 'mirror effect'. It looks like shaders reproduce sub's shadow in almost every wave :)

2. When the weather is perfect and waters are glassy, smth. wrong happens.
In stock game you may watch ripples, but in this mod the waves (ripples) look less authentic (like bubbles); clouds' shadows sometimes appear in an ON-OFF maner.
It is clearly seen standing on the Bridge. Also, clouds shadows create the view as if submarine is moving fast sideways :roll:

P.S. Vol.fog is ON. As for other mods, I use sub's skins, Greenlamp, Sound mod and NSM4. Environmental mod is the last installed one.

P.P.S. W Clear, Is it necessary to install E48for47 ?
E48for47 has changes waters to be glassy.So you must install it.

tonschk 08-29-08 06:02 AM
Hello W_Clear , thank you very much for this mod , can you tell me please where are the files to modify the color of the sea ocean , I prefer a less dark ocean color in my game because I think is a bit dark and with the gamma i cannot adjust the color properly , thank you for the help

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...k/untitled.jpg

IronPerch 08-29-08 06:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by W_clear
E48for47 has changes waters to be glassy.So you must install it.
Hmm... i tested E48for47 with 4.7 and PE3.3 installed and my experience was more like "plastic". So i decided to go back to the PE3.3 4.7 Combo that works well. Is there a conflics between PE 3.3 and your mod, that could cause this kind of experience?

Stev1 08-29-08 09:14 AM
Can you give me the link to the download for environmental 4.4, all i can see is the filefront home page

tonschk 08-29-08 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stev1
Can you give me the link to the download for environmental 4.4, all i can see is the filefront home page

Is not E4.4

Installation sequence:
1--E4.6....... http://files.filefront.com/Enviromen.../fileinfo.html
2--E4.7.......http://files.filefront.com/Enviromen.../fileinfo.html
3--E48for47... http://files.filefront.com/E48for47+.../fileinfo.html

tonschk 08-29-08 10:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by W_clear
Quote:
Originally Posted by conus00
First of all, let me make one thing absolutely clear: this mod ROCKS!!! Hats off to you for making SH4 ultra realistic experience. The ocean looks so real that I have to stop my head from banging into the monitor because I want to jump in.... :D

There is one thing I would change though and I would like to know how other simmers feel about it: I think that in order to make the enviroment ultra-realistic you have overkilled it a little bit in making the night a little too dark. I have seen ocean at night multiple times and, honestly, it will never get so pitch black. Not even on moonless nights. It hinders the gameplay.... Considering that most of the submarine attacks in WW2 took place at night and the real commanders had other things to rely on, like extra three pair of eyes on the watch, they could smell exhaust fuel of the ships etc. attacking ships gets extremely frustrating with your mod at night.

Don't take me wrong. In no way I intend to slam your mod, you have done a hell of a job but sometimes it is a litlle bit better to ease up on the realistic part for the sake of a gameplay....

What do you think?
To become more light water at night is very easy, but it is very realistic.

No moon night, the sea should be like asphalt, which is I have seen.

If there are many people like the water in the evening more light - when not moon. I can create a small patch for you.:hmm:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E4.6 Adjust the color of the sunrise clouds wrong.Adjust the brightness of the sea at night.

http://files.filefront.com/Enviromen.../fileinfo.html

Yes please W_Clear , we want a patch to evening more light :up: thank you very much

Doolittle81 08-29-08 12:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPerch
...
Hmm... i tested E48for47 with 4.7 and PE3.3 installed and my experience was more like "plastic". So i decided to go back to the PE3.3 4.7 Combo that works well. Is there a conflics between PE 3.3 and your mod, that could cause this kind of experience?

I am looking forward to the response from W_Clear. I have been under the impression that one could choose to enable either W_Clear's E.E. mod or Kriller's Pacific Environment Mod, not both.

I also recall, I think, that there was going to be an effort to merge the two Mods into one. I could be wrong about that.

IronPerch 08-29-08 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doolittle81
I am looking forward to the response from W_Clear. I have been under the impression that one could choose to enable either W_Clear's E.E. mod or Kriller's Pacific Environment Mod, not both..
Actually i use only the scene.dat from Environmental and the rest comes from PE3.3. "Combo" looks very nice. The E48for47 updates the scene.dat and the result gave kind of unrealistic impression (like plastic waves from a fairytale...:o or something). But youre right i shouldn't coment the "non-standard" mod setup.:oops:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doolittle81
I also recall, I think, that there was going to be an effort to merge the two Mods into one.
:up: for that

W_clear 08-30-08 12:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonschk
Hello W_Clear , thank you very much for this mod , can you tell me please where are the files to modify the color of the sea ocean , I prefer a less dark ocean color in my game because I think is a bit dark and with the gamma i cannot adjust the color properly , thank you for the help

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...k/untitled.jpg
I dad change it for you ,and change night water color to o little light.


http://files.filefront.com/night+lightrar/;11653559;/fileinfo.html





Why this MOD installed in your SH4, the color of the water so dark. I spent this MOD, not as dark water.:o

W_clear 08-30-08 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonschk
Quote:
Originally Posted by W_clear
Quote:
Originally Posted by conus00
First of all, let me make one thing absolutely clear: this mod ROCKS!!! Hats off to you for making SH4 ultra realistic experience. The ocean looks so real that I have to stop my head from banging into the monitor because I want to jump in.... :D

There is one thing I would change though and I would like to know how other simmers feel about it: I think that in order to make the enviroment ultra-realistic you have overkilled it a little bit in making the night a little too dark. I have seen ocean at night multiple times and, honestly, it will never get so pitch black. Not even on moonless nights. It hinders the gameplay.... Considering that most of the submarine attacks in WW2 took place at night and the real commanders had other things to rely on, like extra three pair of eyes on the watch, they could smell exhaust fuel of the ships etc. attacking ships gets extremely frustrating with your mod at night.

Don't take me wrong. In no way I intend to slam your mod, you have done a hell of a job but sometimes it is a litlle bit better to ease up on the realistic part for the sake of a gameplay....

What do you think?
To become more light water at night is very easy, but it is very realistic.

No moon night, the sea should be like asphalt, which is I have seen.

If there are many people like the water in the evening more light - when not moon. I can create a small patch for you.:hmm:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E4.6 Adjust the color of the sunrise clouds wrong.Adjust the brightness of the sea at night.

http://files.filefront.com/Enviromen.../fileinfo.html

Yes please W_Clear , we want a patch to evening more light :up: thank you very much
I dad change it for you ,and change night water color to o little light. night+light rar for E4.8

http://files.filefront.com/night+lightrar/;11653559;/fileinfo.html

simsurfer 08-30-08 08:56 PM
When was the last version of this mod released??

Thanks

cgjimeneza 08-30-08 09:26 PM
address noted
 
here is the list of mods Ive got
I have just installed v4.6 plus the two 4.7 patches
when I attacked a ship and id caught fire, the fire is a lot of white blocks, when it sinks, the final explosion is ok.

any ideas who is degrading the fire effect?

Atlantic Grid mod
German Office ATO
Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1,2
Rel_SH4_BBC_1939_to_1945
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEECH FIX_V8
SH4 Flag Replacement
(1) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5
(3) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Awards add-on
Enviromental 4.6 mod
Enviromental 4.7 mod
E4.8for4.7 mod
OpsMonsun_V400
OM_V400_Patch1
different smoke (TMO)
SH4_1.5_ Uboat_freeCamFix
Add_Radio_St_02-2008

W_clear 08-31-08 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cgjimeneza
here is the list of mods Ive got
I have just installed v4.6 plus the two 4.7 patches
fire is blocky, final explosion is ok.

any ideas who is degrading the fire effect?

Atlantic Grid mod
German Office ATO
Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1,2
Rel_SH4_BBC_1939_to_1945
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEECH FIX_V8
SH4 Flag Replacement
(1) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5
(3) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Awards add-on
Enviromental 4.6 mod
Enviromental 4.7 mod
E4.8for4.7 mod
OpsMonsun_V400
OM_V400_Patch1
different smoke (TMO)
SH4_1.5_ Uboat_freeCamFix
Add_Radio_St_02-2008
You can E4.6, E4.7, E4.8for4.7 mod and night + light rar for E4.8 == into a MOD, it's a E4.9

W_clear 08-31-08 03:53 AM
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W_clear 08-31-08 03:53 AM
:rock:
Quote:
Originally Posted by simsurfer
When was the last version of this mod released??

Thanks
If there is no proposal to amend the proposal. Well, this is the last version .

tonschk 08-31-08 05:34 AM
:up: Thank you very very much for your help W_Clear :up:

cgjimeneza 08-31-08 08:30 AM
please note edit on my quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by W_clear
Quote:
Originally Posted by cgjimeneza
here is the list of mods Ive got
I have just installed v4.6 plus the two 4.7 patches
When I attacked a ship and it begins to burn, the fire in itself is made of white blocks, as the ship sinks, the final explosion is your usual yellow-red ball of fire.

any ideas what can be degrading the fire effect????????

Here are my enabled mods as of today
Atlantic Grid mod
German Office ATO
Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1,2
Rel_SH4_BBC_1939_to_1945
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEECH FIX_V8
SH4 Flag Replacement
(1) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5
(3) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Awards add-on
Enviromental 4.6 mod
Enviromental 4.7 mod
E4.8for4.7 mod
OpsMonsun_V400
OM_V400_Patch1
different smoke (TMO)
SH4_1.5_ Uboat_freeCamFix
Add_Radio_St_02-2008
You can E4.6, E4.7, E4.8for4.7 mod and night + light rar for E4.8 == into a MOD, it's a E4.9
see edit on the text in light blue

W_clear 08-31-08 08:47 AM
[quote=cgjimeneza][quote=W_clear]
Quote:
Originally Posted by cgjimeneza
here is the list of mods Ive got
I have just installed v4.6 plus the two 4.7 patches
When I attacked a ship and it begins to burn, the fire in itself is made of white blocks, as the ship sinks, the final explosion is your usual yellow-red ball of fire.

any ideas what can be degrading the fire effect????????

Here are my enabled mods as of today
Atlantic Grid mod
German Office ATO
Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1,2
Rel_SH4_BBC_1939_to_1945
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEECH FIX_V8
SH4 Flag Replacement
(1) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5
(3) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Awards add-on
Enviromental 4.6 mod
Enviromental 4.7 mod
E4.8for4.7 mod
OpsMonsun_V400
OM_V400_Patch1
different smoke (TMO)
SH4_1.5_ Uboat_freeCamFix
Add_Radio_St_02-2008
What's time happened ?

cgjimeneza 08-31-08 08:55 AM
blocky fire
 
july 6, 1940
11:39 local time
location:BF4222
that is 690 km due west of Brest, France
do you have an email address to send you pict, I dont know how to paste pics here
[IMG]file:///D:/Uboat/SH4Img@2008-08-30_20.14.32_867.bmp[/IMG]


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