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skidman 10-22-20 08:54 AM

Iran wants Trump to win.

Russia wants Trump to win.

China wants Trump to win.

Why do all those countries, that hate the US so much, want Trump for 4 more years, although he is a volatile choleric person?

Because he is a weak leader, a clueless amateur, a toy for the pros to play with.

u crank 10-22-20 09:54 AM

White hat - Black hat.

mapuc 10-22-20 10:15 AM

^^ And I who thought that China doesn't want Trump to win

Markus

u crank 10-22-20 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2702252)
^^ And I who thought that China doesn't want Trump to win

Markus

Yea it's a bit of twisted logic. The facts say otherwise.

Iran wants a Biden administration to resurrect the Iran nuclear deal. Trump cancelled it.

Trump stands up to China's unfair trade practices, Biden takes his son to China for money deals.

Trump sends anti tank missiles to Ukraine to use against the Russians.

Mr Quatro 10-22-20 12:12 PM

Could this be the end of the democratic party the DNC
if they lose twice in a row? :hmmm:

Perhaps a new party like the ACLU could replace them :D

mapuc 10-22-20 04:00 PM

In todays US-election in the news here in Denmark they discussed Obama's active part in Bidens campaign.

The Danish journalist in USA said

It's without precedent. A former President don't take part in an election as we saw Obama did last night..They keep distance as a respect for the democracy and the voters, it's the voters who have spoken.

Is this correct...I seem to remember last election where Clinton toke active part in helping his wife.

Markus

Jimbuna 10-23-20 03:05 AM

I must admit to being quite underwhelmed by the final debate last night.

Highlights (no pun intended).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF-rnAUnO1k

Buddahaid 10-23-20 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2702258)
..Tump stands up to China's unfair trade practices, Biden takes his son to China for money deals....

Trump has plenty of business with China but let's look the other way......

u crank 10-23-20 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2702423)
Trump has plenty of business with China but let's look the other way......

Let's not look the other way. If Trump and his family have any shady business deals in China or anywhere else they should be exposed. But let's hold Joe Biden and his family to the exact same standard.

Catfish 10-23-20 02:42 PM

They are not in the same league, when it comes to corruption and lying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qre8SluzMxE

u crank 10-23-20 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2702467)
They are not in the same league, when it comes to corruption and lying.

I respectfully disagree. What is the acceptable amount of corruption and lying that you would accept? Is there a standard to go by? How much money can I steal from you before you say it is unacceptable?

I am not excusing anything that Trump has done. I am simply asking that Biden be judged by the same standard. Do you think that is unfair? Do you think if that standard is applied to Joe Biden he will be completely innocent?

August 10-23-20 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2702467)
They are not in the same league, when it comes to corruption and lying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qre8SluzMxE


Well says you and his other political enemies, yet in spite of numerous repeated attempts they have never made any of their charges stick. :hmmm:

Catfish 10-24-20 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2702473)
Well says you and his other political enemies, yet in spite of numerous repeated attempts they have never made any of their charges stick. :hmmm:

I am not his political enemy, i think he does not care for politics. If you do not see what kind of man this is, no one will be able to convince you :)
It is like you want to convince someone of an evangelical TV star fraud, if you want to believe he is godsend nothing will change your mind.

Sean C 10-24-20 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidman (Post 2702237)
Iran wants Trump to win.

Russia wants Trump to win.

China wants Trump to win.

Why do all those countries, that hate the US so much, want Trump for 4 more years, although he is a volatile choleric person?

Because he is a weak leader, a clueless amateur, a toy for the pros to play with.


Or maybe it's because of this:


https://i.redd.it/h46f8sods8551.jpg






...who knows?

Platapus 10-25-20 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2702295)
It's without precedent. A former President don't take part in an election as we saw Obama did last night..They keep distance as a respect for the democracy and the voters, it's the voters who have spoken.


Not quite without precedent, but also not that usual. Please remember that there may be several reasons why a former president may choose not to endorse a candidate and why a candidate may not wish to be endorsed by a former president.



In 2008 George W. Bush endorsed and started campaigning for McCain, but Bush's declining approval numbers made the RNC and other parties decide that Bush's campaigning would not help McCain.


In 1999 Bill Clinton endorsed Al Gore and started campaigning for Gore. However, personal feelings that Gore had for Bill Clinton resulted in the campaigning from Bill Clinton stopping.


2016, It was not surprising that Bill Clinton endorsed and campaigned for Hillary Clinton, she is his wife after all.



In 1998 Reagan endorsed and campaigned for George HW Bush. However, the amount of campaigning that Reagan actually did was rather low.



Even as far back as 1928. Coolidge endorsed and campaigned for Hoover.



Even though they disliked each other Teddy Roosevelt endorsed Taft in 1908


Now one can try to make qualitative comparisons on how much former presidents put in to the endorsements and campaigns. But the fact that former presidents endorsing and helping in campaigns is not unprecedented.


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