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HundertzehnGustav 07-02-13 05:28 AM

its ridiculous even.

you reveal flaws of "da system" and tell the population.

you say you know a lot of nasty stuff.

you run away from "da system" and ask a different "da system" to protect you and your personal future from your old "da system"

all the while still being a timebomb to ANY "da system"

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0SP7i74Sy0...-chan-meme.png

Jimbuna 07-02-13 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2078309)
So Putin says he can stay in Russia if he does no more harm to "our American partners." Interesting line in BS there. Hats off Vladimir.

http://world.time.com/2013/07/01/put...-with-a-catch/

The list of those not going to grant asylum are growing:

Asylum requests
  • Rejected: Austria, Brazil, Finland, India, Ireland, Norway, Poland, Spain, Switzerland
  • Withdrawn: Russia
  • Pending: Bolivia, China, Cuba, Ecuador, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Netherlands, Nicaragua
  • Unconfirmed: France, Venezuela
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23145887

Mittelwaechter 07-02-13 09:28 AM

Stumbled across this here.
The people have to realize there is a problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTjMqda19wk

And this is a great old man, telling the truth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ

mapuc 07-02-13 05:27 PM

The danish politicians say that, if he seeks asylum in Denmark he should be granted this. It's mostly those from the left such as Ehl(The united list)

Markus

Hottentot 07-02-13 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav (Post 2078292)
This either leads to Leaders being more careful in their Doings, or in Humanity selfdestructing.

I hope the latter, for i see no purpose for humans on this planet, besides getting on the nerves of all other forms of life.

From the biggest trees to the smallest beast, we the predators in here, and really deserve to die for our stupid, egoist, evil ways.

I see our resident misanthrope still hasn't figured out what the easiest and best solution to his angst would be, both long- and short term.

garren 07-03-13 12:33 AM

I think he should come back and face the government David vs Goliath style. It just looks too cowardly to me for him to be running like this. If he felt so strongly about informing the people then he should have had the balls to stand his ground HERE in America. People in America are desperately looking for a leader to rally behind. We need someone with the balls to lead the way. Our government has just too much power and control over us these days. We live in the most restrictive country in the world and have the nerve to say we live in a "free" country.

What's so free about it? Just seems to be a nation of laws and restrictions for just about anything and everything. Can say this, can't do that, or it's off to prison with you for a very very long time. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world. It's costing American tax payers a fortune to house, feed, medicate all these supposed criminals. Most of the people in prison are not bad people. Why don't we only confine REAL dangers to society like murderers, rapists, child molesters, armed bank robbers, and terrorists? Why put drug users in prison?

Why put people in prison who do drugs, write bad checks, don't pay their taxes, steal petty property, etc? Deterrent? Well, that doesn't seem to be working. What sense does it make for society to go all out just to punish a man who goes into a store and steals a gallon of milk and a Snickers bar? The total cost of his theft is under $10 bucks, yet the store owner will call the cops and they will come out to investigate. That right there cost more than $10 bucks since you have to pay the cops salary, his gas for his patrol car, the report, etc. Then they catch this man and put him in jail and hook him up with a free attorney at the tax payers expense that costs thousands of dollars. He's being feed more than $10.00 a day worth of food while awaiting his trial. He even gets his medical expenses fully covered during this time if he needs any emergency medical issues taken care off, all on tax payer expense.

Then he goes to trial, gets found guilty, goes back to jail for a year for his crime. By the time it's all said and done, a $10 theft turned into hundreds of thousands, if not millions in some cases, all for such petty crap. This country has just become too greedy, doesn't care about it's people (especially the poor and lower middle class), and only wants to depopulate by getting involved in pointless never ending wars to kill off as many men as possible.

HundertzehnGustav 07-03-13 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 2078751)
I see our resident misanthrope still hasn't figured out what the easiest and best solution to his angst would be, both long- and short term.

i aint got no angst, for there is no need to be afraid.
i just see.
and stopped caring for the large picture.

HundertzehnGustav 07-03-13 02:15 AM

Quote:

and only wants to depopulate by getting involved in pointless never ending wars to kill off as many men as possible.
7 billion and counting.

half of those want
drinkable water
proper food
land
security
fake Boobs for themselves or their wives(or both)
an iphone,
a house,
season tickets to opera/baseball/basketball/soccer
and two cars per household.


...whaddya expect?

they even start stopping each other's planes from transiting, for fear of displeasing the Big bullies, aka US of A.

i mean...

Jimbuna 07-03-13 05:19 AM

Snowden case: Spain allows Evo Morales jet to fly over.

This story just keeps on getting better....anymore for anymore?

Quote:

Spain has opened its airspace to Bolivian president Evo Morales' plane, after it was diverted to Austria amid suspicions Edward Snowden was on board.
Austrian officials said the plane was searched and Mr Snowden, wanted by the US for leaking secrets, was not there.
Quote:

Bolivia has been enraged by Mr Morales' treatment, and has asked for a crisis meeting of South American leaders.
It'll all end up in total war a tells ya :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23158242

Catfish 07-03-13 06:27 AM

^ 'in former times' (read: not long ago) this kind of wiretapping
was a cause for war.

However i cannot really express the disgust and despise for governments not letting planes with S. fly over their territory, or granting asylum.
Including my own.

Erbärmlich. :nope:

HundertzehnGustav 07-03-13 06:56 AM

banning a flyover... is like blocking the road.
What just happened made us Europeans very popular down there.
Not.

i mean like... Its the president on a diplomatic Mission!
The EU is such a Puppy to the US.

Who is scared of Big bad Obama?

BOOO!


wished he was on board.:yep:
THEN WHAT. whatchagonnado bout that! Take Snowden in custody? Face up and thank the man?

EU just avoided standing up for itself.
:nope:

Mittelwaechter 07-03-13 06:58 AM

25 independant nations and Russia should cooperate and the 25 should send airplanes to Moscow.
74 Snowdon body look alike guys with guy fawkes masks and small baggage should enter the airport.
75 masked persons should leave it later to take off again - heading home.
All 25 nations should officially grant Snowdon asylum, because he entered their territory.

That would be a cool action.

We have a guest room and a filled fridge. If Snowden wants to live here with us, we'd feel honoured.

HundertzehnGustav 07-03-13 07:14 AM

...!
+1

Skybird 07-03-13 07:57 AM

What is the situation (regarding legality and diplomatic immunity) of the stunt some European countries and Austria just have run on the Bolevian president's plane which was forced to land at Vienna and then claimed to be searched for Snowden, with the president being aboard?

I imagine the american reaction if Air Force One with POTUS aboard gets forced to land at let's say a Birmese airport and there gets entered and searched over claims that somebody wanted by Russia or China could be aboard.

At least the forum would reach boiling temperature in zero time, I'm sure. And the US homeland and parts of the world as well, probably.

Reports are not clear so far. It seems that closing national airspaces surprisngly forced the plane to land and Vienna due to fuel shortages resulting from the surprising closings. Austrian officials contradict themselves on whether the plane has been searched or not. Bolivian claims also contradict themselves. From both sides you get reports on both a search took place, and a search not having taken place.

HundertzehnGustav 07-03-13 08:03 AM

They would start the B-52s on special training and recce missions.
Europe just screwed up in regards to south America.
Embarassing to say the least.


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