Absolutely not. Hiroshima and Nagasaki porved it. The value of nukes can be quite offensive - as long as the other side does not own similar weapons. When one allows the other side to gain them too, then it becomes a value best described as mutual deterrence, which is a weakening in the status of the side that formerly owned nukes alone. The resulting mutual paralysis I would not call successful defense, though, but paralysis: if I allow to get paralysed and being reduced in the number of options available to me, then this is best evidence for that I have NOT successfully defended myself, I suffered a loss and the other side achieved a gain.

Also, when my defence is such that I must accept own destruction in order to repel the aggressor by destroying him, it again sounds a bit queer to call that a "defense". That may be the reason why they said that nuclear WWIII with the USSR would not have known any winners, only losers.

The trick in all this is not to allow an inferior enemy to become as strong as you are. THEN you can successfully defend yourself. Equality in strength may please some inappropriate sense of sportsmanship in some gentleman-styled wannabe-warriors. But it does nothing positive for you. Strength is a virtue. Equality or weakness are not, but are just this: weakness. That strength needs a strong sense of responsibility, does not reduce its value. It just means that it needs a strong sense for responsibility, else it becomes tyrannic and aggressive. However, if you are deadlocked in a stalemate with the other side, or are inferior to it, your options are fewer, or non-existent.

SBX relocated closer to NKorea.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...rth_Korea.html

This one-of-a-kind is described as being able to "detect a baseball flying 5000 km away".

Even if that maybe is exaggerated, it certainly is a very huge, wide open eye.

And a big, fat, slow-floating tasty target.

For what? The DPRK doesn't have the range to hit it. Their submarines would be detected by the SBXs guard and sunk before they got near it, likewise their aircraft.

A principle remark.

German media stressed that they are bringing it - original quote - "close to the Northkorean coast", bringing images of "slightly outside the 6 miles zone" on my mind. :D - And then switching on the beacon, saying "Hi everbody, here I am." :salute:

I assume they do not place it that close. :woot:

She's got a max radar range of 2000km, which is beyond the returnable range of the Sang-O, but not the Romeo, however she won't be alone out there, there'll be AEGIS ships and ASW ships nearby, maybe even a 688i just in case, and a Romeo is not exactly a top range boat, and would definitely have to snorkel a few times before she got near the fleet which would make her a noisy target.

In regards to airforce, the KPAF has IL-28s which don't have the range to go there and back, and would be shot down before they got near enough to do anything dangerous.

Their missile boats could make it that far (just) but they'd be watched the entire way and plinked when they got within weapons range. You can guarantee that there are US vessels sitting in international waters outside most major DPRK ports, and drones watching the others.

or they will send a couple of these:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2081/p0080224.jpg

:har::har::har:

Nah, the people are too starved to pull the oars to get that thing to move!

Either that or it'll open fire and explode. :haha:

Looks like the torpedo will strike amidships right abaft the bridge. :yep:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2081/p0080224.jpg

TBH it looks like it already has! :haha:

I take it you noticed the placement of the N-2 SSM launch tubes.

I can't help but think what would happen in a strong cross wind... :hmmm:

It's nice to see that fire ships didn't go out of fashion after the 1800s. :yep:

Reminds me of back to the future :hmmm:

Ouch. That's a fair cop. Guilty as charged. :oops:

Now and then I had this question I was thinking on starting a thread about

But I have read about it in this thread and in some other thread so I asked it here instead

What is most dangerouse

A well trained crew in an old sub(e.g from 80'ies)
or
A not so well trained crew in a modern sub.

Markus

According to the Swedish newspaper aftonbladet, who has it from the Russian RT(I do not trust this news channel, so I don't know how reliable the information is)

China is mobilizing it's military

http://rt.com/news/chinese-military-korea-alert-184/

Markus