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Takeda Shingen 11-21-12 12:55 PM

It'll last until the next rocket gets fired from Gaza.

Jimbuna 11-21-12 03:09 PM

Well the ceasefire is about an hour old and there have been no further incidents reported.

I've still got an uneasy feeling but only time will tell:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20436699

Gerald 11-21-12 04:35 PM

Personally,I look cautiously towards a permanent ceasefire,unfortunately.

Jimbuna 11-21-12 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1963892)
It'll last until the next rocket gets fired from Gaza.

I'll cover your bet/hunch :03:

Skybird 11-21-12 05:25 PM

Hamas was unable to control the independent militias immediately before the Israeli attack began. If these militias now agree to honour the Hamas deal, then I can imagine only two explanations: either Israel has hurt these militias more seriously than i would have thought possible by airstrikes alone (both their pool of commanders and fighters, and their rocket arsenals), or these militias got bribed by paying them money. Surely they invest that money into education, books, and schools.

One year after the Lebanon war ended, Hezbollah was reported to be even more intensely armed with bazookas, ATGMs and missiles, than before the 2006 war broke out.

And Hamas says part of the deal with Israel now is that they open the border between Gaza and Egypt.

What was this old saying? After the war is before the war, something like that? Iran is still there, playing, training, delivering, supporting. And Turkey is still there, agitating.

A seize fire - is only a temporary measure. It helps Hamas and Iran much more than Israel.

Skybird 11-21-12 06:25 PM

The German Handelsblatt has just reported (by referring to Israeli police speakers) that the seize fire already has been broken. Palestinians fired over a dozen rockets over the border and into Israel. Iron Dome shot down several of them. That should have happened at around 2000 MET.

So much for having weakened the militias sufficiently, or having payed them sufficient money.

Oberon 11-21-12 07:33 PM

Either that or they'll take to blowing up buses in Israel again.

IDF spokesman says that there's been at least two launches and several interceptions since the ceasefire went into effect. However that is, quite honestly, a normal level for the area and about the level that's been going on for most of this year. Whether or not Israel uses this as a reason to retaliate is entirely up to Israel, I don't think they will since they will want to have wrapped this up and be ready for the Iranian operations soon now that the C3 of Hamas has been disrupted. Of course, the problem with such organisations is that a) it's not just Hamas in the strip, and b) there's a lot of leeway at the lower levels, so if Israel does hit Iran, there will be a major bout of rocket launches from the Strip...however, Iron Dome has done a good job of intercepting the worst of the barrage, which is perhaps part of the reason for this, a test run to see how well Iron Dome will cope under a sustained conflict.

Now, we just wait to see a) how long this ceasefire lasts and b) when Israel will hit Iran.

eddie 11-21-12 07:44 PM

This is an interesting read as to why Hezbollah has been sitting this one out between Israel and Hamas. I've been surprised that its been quiet on Israels northern border.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/w...-gaza-conflict

Jimbuna 11-22-12 05:45 AM

So far so good...the Israeli military said three rockets had been fired from Gaza since the ceasefire came into effect, two of which were shot down by the Iron Dome defence system. It said there had been no fire in either direction since midnight.

Skybird 11-22-12 07:03 AM

LINK: The Arab world's all-purpose enemy

Jimbuna 11-22-12 07:16 AM

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The Arab Spring is an attempt to return the region to its roots. It’s not to Westernize the Middle East and make it more democratic; it’s to Easternize it and make it more Islamic. If the early 20th century was about the East trying to join what it couldn’t lick, the early 21st may be about the East trying to lick what it hasn’t been able to join.
So it looks like there will never be an end to the violence in the region.

Gerald 11-22-12 10:43 AM

Gaza and Israel begin to resume normal life after truce
 
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People in Gaza and southern Israel are starting to return to normal life following Wednesday's ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

A number of rockets were fired from Gaza in the first few hours of the truce, but Israel did not respond.

However, Israeli schools close to the Gaza Strip were kept closed on Thursday as a precaution.
Return to the "normal" it is hardly something that is so easy...

Note: Update,record 22 November 2012 Last updated at 15:10 GMT

Herr-Berbunch 11-22-12 11:09 AM

When you look at the loss of Palestinian land in the last 60-odd years it's very easy to see reasons for Palestinians wanting to keep fighting the US-supported bully boys.

But you can't say that -

http://liverpoolfriendsofpalestine.c...qa7uhos3lg.jpg

Alex 11-22-12 11:40 AM

@ Herr-Berbunch : Hahaha ! :up:

Tribesman 11-22-12 12:05 PM

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But you can't say that -
Of course you can.
However if you do it while ranting in favour of crazy 1930s politicians or moaning about global jewish conspiracies and jewish control of the media while posting about the "merits" of vile 1920s bigotry you will get labelled as an Alex.


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