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VirtualVikingX 07-27-11 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1714017)
Then why is the lawyer prepared to carry on with the representation role...this is what I can't understand? :hmmm:

1. Can anyone else but Lippestad answer that question?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20083524.shtml

2. Somebody has to do it.

3. The idiot may have picked up his name as Lippestad defended a right-wing murder about 10 years ago.

kraznyi_oktjabr 07-27-11 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1714017)
Then why is the lawyer prepared to carry on with the representation role...this is what I can't understand? :hmmm:

I think that Lippestad saw it better to do it himself than dump this "honour job" to someone else.

Just speculating based on what I would propably would do in this kind of situation. Luckily I'm not lawyer so I'm unlikely to get into this kind of mess...

Feuer Frei! 07-27-11 06:09 AM

It is certainly nothing unusual for lawyers to defend, and i will use the term diplomatically, but a client such as this.
Especially if it is a big media trial.
Think of the exposure to the lawyer and the company!
Good for business.
And of course the money surely is not pushed aside.

VirtualVikingX 07-27-11 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1714038)
It is certainly nothing unusual for lawyers to defend, and i will use the term diplomatically, but a client such as this.
Especially if it is a big media trial.
Think of the exposure to the lawyer and the company!
Good for business.
And of course the money surely is not pushed aside.

But this is still a better downside than the alternatives.

Penguin 07-27-11 06:23 AM

from the article Viking posted:
Quote:

[The lawyer] confirmed he's a member of the Labor Party but doesn't know whether the suspect is aware.
This is what makes a professional lawyer: being able to put his own feelings toward the defendant aside. Even harder when he certainly hates the guts of his client.

Regarding the public Lippestad gains: this can also backfire on him, if people assume that he has sympathies for the murderer by the fact that he defends him. So this is a two-edged sword.

Feuer Frei! 07-27-11 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1714048)
This is what makes a professional lawyer: being able to put his own feelings toward the defendant aside. Even harder when he certainly hates the guts of his client.

Staying neutral in cases like this. Yea, makes you wonder wether these people are infact human, doesn't it?
Staying neutral on the outside, but inside burning up with hate and unspeakable feelings of ill wishes i would imagine.

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Regarding the public Lippestad gains: this can also backfire on him, if people assume that he has sympathies for the murderer by the fact that he defends him. So this is a two-edged sword.
Absolutely.
Although i think that in this day and age not a lot of that happens though. Or does it?
I don't recall any noteworthy trials where the public has persecuted and ridiculed a defense lawyer in public. I'm sure someone may be along and point out just the opposite.
From a respect point of view to the victims and the People of Norway, i will from now ON refrain in entering discussions on this topic as i wouldn't be showing respect to them. Just my personal opinion, that is all.

VirtualVikingX 07-27-11 06:53 AM

Id like to add that all the victims and also murder victims families will have lawyers appointed to them, free of charge, as per usual in serious cases (rape, murder and so on).

Jimbuna 07-27-11 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by VirtualVikingX (Post 1714024)
1. Can anyone else but Lippestad answer that question?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20083524.shtml

2. Somebody has to do it.

3. The idiot may have picked up his name as Lippestad defended a right-wing murder about 10 years ago.

That clears it up for me...thank you :up:

Feuer Frei! 07-27-11 09:42 AM

Update:

A POLISH businessman faces up to eight years in prison after being charged for selling chemicals to Norwegian self-confessed killer Anders Behring Breivik, Norway's Dagbladet newspaper reported today. Lukasz Mikus, 32, was charged with public security offenses and faces between six months and eight years in prison, a Polish prosecutor told the newspaper.
Breivik named Mikus's online trading business, based in the southern city of Wroclaw, in his "manifesto" detailing his preparations for last Friday's attack, in which 76 people were killed in a bomb blast in Oslo and shooting at a youth camp on Utoya island.
Mikus told the newspaper that he had no idea that Breivik intended to use his chemicals in a bomb. He described the situation as "a nightmare."
Polish authorities denied reports Monday that it arrested Mikus. But the businessman told the newspaper that he was questioned through Sunday night and Monday after armed police raided his home.

SOURCE

BossMark 07-27-11 11:35 AM

Leeds United pay their respects in Norway

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/2011...247585_2403373

AVGWarhawk 07-27-11 11:55 AM

Look were the accused is spending 21 years!! :o:o


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Norway's unrepentant mass killer, Anders Behring Breivik, is now under arrest. And he should count himself lucky for -- if entirely undeserving of -- a penal system in that country that is among the cushiest in the world. There's no capital punishment, and the longest jail term allowed is 21 years (a caveat: if a prisoner is deemed to still be a threat, his sentence can be extended in five-year blocks indefinitely, though it's highly unlikely, according to Norwegian officials). In Norway, rehabilitation is the guiding principle, not punishment -- a somewhat difficult notion to swallow given the gravity and callousness of his crimes.
Its a damn vacation resort!




http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/07/25/the_super_lux_super_max

Tribesman 07-27-11 12:57 PM

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Look were the accused is spending 21 years!!
First impression is what a knee jerk piece.
Second impression says it all.
Look at the article ...Daily Mail....Daily Mail....Daily Mail.
But it does also have a global article which goes...according to the Daily Mail.
Given that parts of fruitcakes "manifesto" read like a Daily Mail article it is a bit rich.
BTW isn't that "super lux" prison the one which lots of criminals beg to get out of after they finally earned the chance to get sent to it.

AVGWarhawk 07-27-11 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1714349)
First impression is what a knee jerk piece.
Second impression says it all.
Look at the article ...Daily Mail....Daily Mail....Daily Mail.
But it does also have a global article which goes...according to the Daily Mail.
Given that parts of fruitcakes "manifesto" read like a Daily Mail article it is a bit rich.
BTW isn't that "super lux" prison the one which lots of criminals beg to get out of after they finally earned the chance to get sent to it.

I do not see where it says daily mail. :hmmm:

Let's try here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ry-prison.html

VirtualVikingX 07-27-11 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1714320)
Look were the accused is spending 21 years!! :o:o




Its a damn vacation resort!




http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/07/25/the_super_lux_super_max

I feel a need to get very vocal in my reply to this post. Ill wait a bit a post later when I'm calm.

(Main point: Do not push caveman style justice on us! However you can do what you want in your own country/state/republic)

Jimbuna 07-27-11 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualVikingX (Post 1714362)
I feel a need to get very vocal in my reply to this post. Ill wait a bit a post later when I'm calm.

(Main point: Do not push caveman style justice on us! However you can do what you want in your own country/state/republic)

Best you ensure you are calm before you post then.


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