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Weiss Pinguin 08-31-10 09:57 AM

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those must be some high maintnence guns
Those might not be the only guns he's calibrating :D

Task Force 08-31-10 10:21 AM

Ya know, there are two ways I can take that! :lol:

ya know, he was always working on the mako also, and it still handled like crap...

Weiss Pinguin 08-31-10 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1481773)
ya know, he was always working on the mako also, and it still handled like crap...

I rest my case :smug:

HunterICX 08-31-10 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter (Post 1481494)
But the game combat and total rape of the first version. really sucked.. I like the mako explorations. I like the scenery. Sure there was some repetitive textures. But over all it was nice. Now if you like clicking a 2D drop anal probs on planets for hours... i'll choose the mako any day.

I hated the mako bits, the planets where a complete utter barfed out mess that is randomly created in some 3D map editor.

I do agree, in ME2 you're stuck that you probe and landed...but at least I skipped the crappy part where I looked at a landscape that was uninspiring for that alone screw the mako rides.

probing the planets well, I never focused on it...and mixed it in between the missions when I felt like upgrading some stuff, it's a crappy job but someone has to do it.

also those ME1 side missions....:damn: land, roam around that awfull landscape and do physically impossible things with the mako to get as fast to the location you need to be....just to get to the same kind of bunker or warehouse to kill some badies that hardly contribute anything to the actual story...it's crap like that that makes ME1 replay value having the same crapfactor as probing the planets in ME2...it's something you dont want to do...but it's neccesary to get some more exp, money/resources or some items and ofcourse the feeling that you don't leave too much out when you end the game.

the combat in ME1 is horrible, when ever I REALLY want to cover it doesn't and whenever I want to charge I passed a wall or hit a boc or something I went into cover when I didn't want too :damn: that stupid crap costed me countless times of loading save game and start a bit back and just getting more and more frustated. Also if you take a different class which isn't trained to use let's say a sniper rifle and/or assault rifle...why do I carry that/those damn thing(s) around just to screw me up whenever in combat and want to switch weapon with my mousewheel and scroll the wrong way and get the damn weapon(s) I can't use.

also what's up with the sniper rifle in ME1? I hated it....in ME2 it's at least something that's stable and you can properly aim with it.

the ME1 inventory, too much crap....couldn't they list it with counters as in let's say Ammo Piercing rounds x 5 , Heat Sink II x 2 or something? no you get this endless craplist of junk which is hard to sort out when you don't feel like wasting your time to get +5% more damage.

I was glad that I didn't had that crap in ME2.

the story in ME1 is indeed a bit more satisfying in the end, it gives you a good feeling. ME2 story does more explaining but the ending is a bit duller then 1 but I see it in between and you want to get to the 3th game right away to have the total story of Mass Effect

the end bosses....they both suck...Saren is easy as hell heck I had more dificulty to kill Benezia with those Geth Snipers and Asari commando's around you...with saren just walk around the track near the wall sideways and keep shooting him...it's a no brainer...same goes for big ass reaper in ME2...but he's easier...as he's too slow cover, shoot , cover shoot cover shoot.

I like both games, both have their pros and cons, I find ME1 a bit more frustating here and there

HunterICX

Task Force 08-31-10 10:44 AM

Saren, easy HA... took me 40 mins to kill him because of the funny red gernade things he kept throwing. Hell, I died 3 times.

and the new cover system... shepard in ME2 was stuck to the wall when I wanted him to run. killed me over 10 times because he wouldnt move.

HunterICX 08-31-10 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1481791)
Saren, easy HA... took me 40 mins to kill him because of the funny red gernade things he kept throwing. Hell, I died 3 times.

Died once in all my play throughts when fighting Saren on all dificulties.

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and the new cover system... shepard in ME2 was stuck to the wall when I wanted him to run. killed me over 10 times because he wouldnt move.
never had that happen, only when sprinting Shepard seems not to be able to turn left or right.

HunterICX

Wolfehunter 08-31-10 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 1481788)
I hated the mako bits, the planets where a complete utter barfed out mess that is randomly created in some 3D map editor.

True but far better than 2D anal probs. :salute:

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
I do agree, in ME2 you're stuck that you probe and landed...but at least I skipped the crappy part where I looked at a landscape that was uninspiring for that alone screw the mako rides.

I still like the idea of exploring. I'm old timer gamer. I like the time to walk on worlds. Not my fault the DEV team sucked at making interesting worlds or they're just cheap?

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
probing the planets well, I never focused on it...and mixed it in between the missions when I felt like upgrading some stuff, it's a crappy job but someone has to do it.

Upgrading the ship is a cool feature. They could have done more.. The upgrade system for the guns was ok.. I preferred the ME1 system though.

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
also those ME1 side missions....:damn: land, roam around that awfull landscape and do physically impossible things with the mako to get as fast to the location you need to be....just to get to the same kind of bunker or warehouse to kill some badies that hardly contribute anything to the actual story...it's crap like that that makes ME1 replay value having the same crapfactor as probing the planets in ME2...it's something you dont want to do...but it's neccesary to get some more exp, money/resources or some items and ofcourse the feeling that you don't leave too much out when you end the game.

So blame the DEV team for ****ty job on the variaty of textures, maps and imagination. But in ME2 Its even WORSE! Dumb down further. :nope:

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
the combat in ME1 is horrible, when ever I REALLY want to cover it doesn't and whenever I want to charge I passed a wall or hit a boc or something I went into cover when I didn't want too :damn: that stupid crap costed me countless times of loading save game and start a bit back and just getting more and more frustated. Also if you take a different class which isn't trained to use let's say a sniper rifle and/or assault rifle...why do I carry that/those damn thing(s) around just to screw me up whenever in combat and want to switch weapon with my mousewheel and scroll the wrong way and get the damn weapon(s) I can't use.

I hate ME2 combat duck and cover **** system. It you run and bang into a wall your stuck and ****ed over. By the time you get unstuck your dead. They designed the game for Consoles not PC layouts. I can't stand that system. If they make a PC game they have more resources available for them to add value to combat experience not hinder it because ooops its for Consoles. :down:

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
also what's up with the sniper rifle in ME1? I hated it....in ME2 it's at least something that's stable and you can properly aim with it.

Don't know never used it much. Use my pistol mostly... :woot:

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
the ME1 inventory, too much crap....couldn't they list it with counters as in let's say Ammo Piercing rounds x 5 , Heat Sink II x 2 or something? no you get this endless craplist of junk which is hard to sort out when you don't feel like wasting your time to get +5% more damage.

I like the older system better. I like the variety of choices. Dev's could have done a better job in making better quality items instead of repetitive crap. Again its about doing the job right the first time.. Still In ME2 they cut back on everything for the sake of profits. Not quality. :yawn:

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
the end bosses....they both suck...Saren is easy as hell heck I had more dificulty to kill Benezia with those Geth Snipers and Asari commando's around you...with saren just walk around the track near the wall sideways and keep shooting him...it's a no brainer...same goes for big ass reaper in ME2...but he's easier...as he's too slow cover, shoot , cover shoot cover shoot.

You talking about Sovereign's avatar or Saren? Saren Didn't take me long to finish hims since he did the job himself. Sovereign's avatar was interesting since he's tough and fast. Reaper I agree with you. Joke... I don't know if I should laugh or cry for the waist of my time. :doh:

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Originally Posted by HunterICX
I like both games, both have their pros and cons, I find ME1 a bit more frustating here and there

Agreed. We could go on forever too.. ;) Its a matter of taste and ME2 has lost its flavour for me. One of those cheap bubble gums that don't last long.... ME1 is better tasting gum... :smug:

Task Force 08-31-10 01:33 PM

also, poor shepard forgot to crouch in death...:wah: Poor shepard, suffering from altimers and he is still under 40.

I also found the second game felt like it wasnt letting me explore. it was very linear, and felt like I was running in a tunnel.

I know I did one mission where I went to a planet, pressed 4 buttons and left! :{O

Tho I did like Omega.

*and to add to ma little rant.

The new weapons system, sucked in my opinion, yeas the weapon aamo powers were better, its easyer to press 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 to do a power than choose it from the equipment screen. but the gun upgrades didnt really do it for me. Never knoticed them much. just a gun that sucked just abit less.

and the aamo system... they could have done it better.

have heat sinks, have them heat up as in ME1, but have them be effective. over time it starts to build up heat quicker because it is getting old, and you have to eject it and add a new one. and when you runout you can still fire but it builds up quicker. And if you overheat the gun, you can keep fireing but you can damage the gun, to the point evenualy where it stops working/ malfunctioning, and you have to get a new one from the ship. I know I died afiew times because of the new aamo system, and running out.

Weiss Pinguin 08-31-10 04:05 PM

I agree with Hunter on all points. But as I said, I'm playing on a console; from what I'm reading if I had ME2 on the PC I might feel a little differently ;)

Task Force 08-31-10 04:49 PM

I would say some of the gameplay is better in the second game, yes the combat is abit more streamlined, and the sniper rifles dont wobble like crazy (tho in ME2 they are way to stable) my main issue would be with the story, an example would be when you are attacking the ship, shepard says for joker to close in on them... BIG mistake. which *******s the mission that otherwise seems to go off without a problem.

*Also anouther issue, alot of people didnt wear armor. Those clothes must have some great bullet proof propertys!

IIRC the only people who do have armor are garrus, shepard, zaeed, grunt, legion... and I think thats it.

a good example is Samara, yea, she has a biotic barrier, but when she looses that, and is down to health. she just has that silly suit between her and a hail of projectiles. It dosent feel like we are fighting with a "group of soldiers who are ready for a fight"

Task Force 09-01-10 04:22 PM

http://masseffect.bioware.com/
and now something good that I have to say about ME2 (lair of the shadow broaker trailer)! looks like it will be pretty good.

HunterICX 09-12-10 03:08 PM

:haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOiadBeRCpg

I nearly fell of my chair just walking to joker and get to hear this. :har:

HunterICX

Highbury 09-12-10 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 1491511)
:haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOiadBeRCpg

I nearly fell of my chair just walking to joker and get to hear this. :har:

HunterICX

That is awesome, haven't heard that one yet. I should give both ME's another playthrough. It's been awhile AND I now have a wonderfully geeky N7 hoody my wife bought for me at Comic Con to wear while I do it. :D

Task Force 09-15-10 04:47 PM

Lol, yep, joker is a much better (and funnier) character in this game.

And in other news... Lair of the shadow broaker was pretty good. tho It could have been longer, had abit more conversation. But I will say I was not expecting what the shadow broaker was.

Task Force 09-26-10 09:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTp7s...eature=related
(ME1 sovereign speach... in german.)
I must say, sovereign sounds much creepyer in german, the characters not so much.


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