iPhone 4 here, quite happy with it and actually like the Apple ecosystem-at least for music/apps. While I like the "smartphone" part of it, it also has allowed me to skip getting an ipod and a mobile gaming system (can't replace PC gaming of course but the quality of many ios games has actually surprised me).

Just a bit tired of "phone wars" though.

Either by talking vis-a-vis or by spending the time to write a letter instead of doing a quickie by hitting the "I like" button or by throwing in a 3 seconds-tweet...?

Oh, that is snothing, just wait for Windows 8 - MS obviously tries to change the game for PCs as well and turn the Windows PC into a closed system like Apple and its depending iUniverse.

Background: if MS succeeds and people tolerate W8, it will spell agony for games on PCs, but maybe will bring Linux the long awaited breakthrough not only on servers, but home PCs as well. Steam starts to develope for Linux now, in reaction to W8. The Minecraft developer has refused a MS request to let his game being licensed for W8. I hope more game studios and developers do like this. Business is not eager to buy W8 either, since they have longer updating cycles for basic software, than private households. If now gamers could be sensible enough for the future of gaming, and boycott W8 as well, then there is hope that the PC will remain to be a free gaming platform for some years longer. Windows 8 must fail - we cannot afford to let it become a success for MS. It would kill the PC as we know it. Turning the PC into a closed universe like Apple is the real drive behind Microsoft pushing tablets and W8 Metro. The latter are only baits to soften up resistance to their real ambition.

The more costly a W8 debacle for MS becomes, the better.

I just hate to talk with somebody on a wire. I prefer email, chat or forum, to phoning. Because when I talk to somebody, then I want it to be vis-a-vis.

McCoy hates transporters. I hate telephones. ;) I also hate to jump just because somebody else hits a button. Telephones have the unpleasant feature of ringing at right that time when you do not need any disturbance at all.

You might want to get your blood sugar checked. :doh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JC6w9hgl7c

Still pushing data with my HTC EVO. Going on year three. Ain't broke. Ain't fixing it. :D

I got my Evo in 09' as well haha

No cracks or anything so far.

Skybird, you have to differentiate between Windows 8 desktop and Windows 8 Metro apps. Windows 8 desktop programs remain as today.

Metro is more or less in the first version a touch-based OS and I do not think that on the desktop it becomes the major flavor in the foreseeable future.

I know a lot of people say the desktop is dead, blabla ;) but I do not believe that. Often the same people complain that they do not wanna work with a tablet for more than an hour.

I also do not like closed systems but we have to tolerate that probably the majority of end users exactly wanna having this due to security and stability issues. 95% of the non IT-people also do not install apps on web pages...they just go to the market.

So, personally I hope MS has success so that Apple gets a further competitor.
From a developer perspective MS has the best development tools and framework, which I like very much.

Are not you people tired of ranting about every new version of windows and how the previous one was the best...so far win95 was the best one or 3.11.



Seriously...

http://shinnok.com/rants/wp-content/...e_ballmer1.jpg

Does this guy look like some one who means you any harm.:D

I understand and agree, it's better to make time to meet and talk in person, but some times text/phone is better. I try to hit a happy medium, I don't want to be this guy.

It's a sturdy phone. Feels more rugged then the newer phones. I have thrown it in anger a few times. The darn thing keeps on going.

You know, I'm not an Apple hater, and the first iPhone really set the trend for cool, useable smart phones. But after having my LG Optimus Elite for a week, and comparing it to my daughter's iPhone 4, I have to say I am struck by the difference in the cases. The iPhone has a really square edge, it's a 90 degree angle that's not really very contoured
http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/...one-5-Side.jpg

It looks like the first iPhone was much sleeker, am I right?
http://xiphone.org/wp-content/upload...1/iphone2G.gif

The LG and many of the Android phones are really sculpted,
http://asset2.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d...-1_620x443.jpg

Looks like handy device...
Newer phones are sort of cross between phone and tablet hence the shape and the big screen.
It is sort of compromise, if they make it any bigger it will be sort of ridiculous it is phone after all...

http://mobility.com.ng/wp-content/up...ia-400x284.jpg

And you know its true ^ :D

Iphone 3gs 16GB,

Like that: is simple, tidy OS, reliable, does everthing reasonably well, Camera Video quality is still pretty damn good. And has enough games to make a PSP blush.

Hate that: Its made by Apple :), the battery is built in, the camera has no flash or zoom, and that for such an expensive product (upon its launch) the casing is cheapo crap that cracks everywhere from 'pocket stress' No I've never dropped it....