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Originally Posted by Ostfriese
That's sort of naive... How can you be sure that they will iron out the bugs? They can easily say 'who cares, we have got our money'. Now don't even think about starting like 'the players would never forget this.' They will. They have done so before and they will do it again.
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I already stated my point and I have SH3 as an argument. This is a complex product and the bugs are relatively minor. Even if they wouldn't produce another single patch after this, I'm sure the community would iron things out.
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I agree, they do that - but think for a moment about the reasons why. The answer? Because there are enough -excuse me- idiots out there who simply turn of their brains and buy the junk if it has been hyped long enough.
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I hope the hype and junk are in general sense because I can hardly see how they refer to this game.
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So you're saying that we should simply ignore those 'minor' bugs (like CTDs...) just because UBI fills a niche? We should take the product in even the worst states just because their is no other product? Hilarious.
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Well, you may find it hillarious but that's how things are currently. It's much easier for companies to play it safe and publish another FPS or similar hit games. Now, this is not a junk game. It's very well done with some minor issues which will be sorted out one way or another. Jesus, they game's just out for a week or less and already you're crucifying it.
And as for CTDs, the obvious ones are removed with the patch. Some occasional ones might still happen but there are still CTDs happening sometimes in SH3 but do you see other people bitching and mouning about the issues or do you see them enjoying the game and praising the community for such great mods such as GWX, NYGM and others?
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Originally Posted by Ostfriese
WE are the customers, it's OUR money that they want. They don't make presents, they want to sell a product. But for the money we spend we can expect a product as good as possible - and sadly more and more games lack the necessary beta testing. And this is NOT the producers' / publishers' fault.
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Well you look at it this way, but in this day and situation, I look at it as a present. 50$ is really nothing for a product I will play over years to come (I'll probably play SH3 more as I prefer the Atlantic; I find it more exciting when you're just fighting to survive).
But how did you come to conclusion that these bugs are not in any way publisher's fault? They gave a deadline (the whole game had a rather tight schedule) and wouldn't move it so, even if you as a developer know about the bugs, you don't have a choice. The publisher sure as hell won't move it.
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I actually want to see Silent Hunter V as well, just like you. But unlike you I would like the release version to be free of horrible bugs that a serious beta testing would have found and eliminated, and unlike you I'm not willing to spend my hard earned money on faulty products.
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Yeah, sure, I don't want your hard-earned 50$ to get wasted if a game has a bug or two. There is a world of difference between 'faulty', meaning it can be ironed out with patches and 'bad' which no patches can sort out. This is surely not a bad product and it will get ironed out.
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But unfortunately I'll wait forever for a (mostly) bugfree SH V. UBI will not even TRY to make release versions bugfree. Why should they? There will be enough people who will buy it anyway.
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If there will be an SH V made by the same team and made to this quality and it revisits the Atlantic, you're damn right I'm buying. If that makes me an idiot, fine.
