You mean there has been improvement? Like real talk? I figured this was lost a long time ago.

-S

Well, you & Co. may leave. :lol:

EDIT: Or are you suggesting to lock the thread? ;)

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Would need Jung to be introduced? :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

There goes the intelligent conversation! Sorry I contradicted you, SubMan.

Any Christians here care to bother refuting the latest doodle of the day?

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Thought so. It is pretty funny that he can't say anything for himself relies on cartoons to do his talking. I had a bit of a chuckle over that!

-S

Well, I´m just an atheist, but even I find that dumb.

I do not think so, these cartoons have a very specific message.

Where is written that I have to engage in a argument with hostile persons to express ideas? :hmm::hmm::hmm:

Yeah, the message is "Atheists are dumb *******s."

I mean WTF!?!? "You lose your power to choose and to evaluate your life and make your own decisions." That´s totally cheap and ridiculous. There are way too many stereotypes.

That is your consideration, not mine.
EDIT: The cartoon's message is valid beyond any personal consideration.

Gizzmoe, you were getting into a pointless (IMHO) argument with the other team.

They are not going to change their minds, and you either.

I am posting "ideas", some people can take them as valid and others not.

The core here is to show them and disseminate them.

"You lose your power to choose and to evaluate your life and make your own decisions."

I make my own decisions based on how I was raised and how I live everyday. The fact of the matter is that right from wrong isn't based on someone trying to control me. It's based on my beliefs. Whether you believe that they were "forced down my throat" as many; not all, athesis state, is your opinion. It's a mixture of education and religious study...which coincides for me. Your cheap shots regarding the Old Testiment are hilarious as you aren't taking the New Testiment's salvation into consideration.

You are the one in this instance of pasting cartoons validfying your stance...not us. Your deminer is even getting other athesis surprised by your comments.

So now that you have and everyone has rejected them, what now?

Ahh yes Jewish, sorry.
What I meant was that the religion you have the religion from your parents is, it's not chosen by you.
Only very few switch to a otehr religion, mostly because of marriage.
Kids are brainwashed, and I know because I ones was a Cristian (Catholic).
Fear was one of them, hell and purgatory.

I even question some of the Catholic ways of life, so I can see why. An example is worshipping the virgin Mary. I don't quite get this idea when the bible specifically forbids it.

-S

Where's Skybird when you need him? :) I personally find the cartoons funny. They are a means to express oneself so be it. Big questions to be sure...on the point of teaching ID in schools and your comments to me Gizzmoe in that you'd "Bet" that I would not want my own children to seek and know they're own truths is very insulting to me frankly.You apperantly have been totaly tuned out to the past discussions of this board regarding Christianity...where even Skybird acknowledged that "Christianity" is based entirely upon "Free Will"...it is a choice....a free choice to pick up your cross deny ones "Self" and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.We are taught and acknowledge the fact "MOST" will not choose this path...Friends...family,...most.I acknowledge my own children may not choose the path I am on and accept this...the best I can do is try to show " ALL " of the known paths that are out there and let them decide....There is an order to a Christians life...Christ,others...self is last always.My wife knows I put God before her and my children.This is where trust, hope, and faith come into play.

The flesh and spirit are enimity with each other and will always be so...I discuss not to try to change the flesh of people, this is born into sin, I speak to the spirit of each man here which cries to cross over to life eternal.

Flesh does not go to heaven or hell the spirit does...I speak to the spirit...

With this last passage I will dis-continue in this discussion as it bears no fruit to strive with flesh.

John 3

1There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.


Ya either get it or ya don't.