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Mad Mardigan 11-20-20 06:21 PM

Re: Unsinkable ships.. Part Deux...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Archduke (Post 2708233)
In the most recent attack, I hit her with 4 torps, spread across her side. 1 of them was set to explode under. All hit within 10 seconds of each other. Generally, I find that most merchants can be sunk by 1-2 torps. For a ship of that size, 4 isn't unreasonable.

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157

100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEdition_v1.24_EN

:Kaleun_Cheers:

Might see of download, unzip, drop into the MODS 📂, the 1.2 patch. Is listed in post #1, after activating it ( or would that be just before activating it... :hmmm: ) see of deleting the save 📂, or grab it & set it aside on the desktop, then see how it goes, what with adding in the patch...

Keeping the old save 📂, just in case.

Hope this helps...

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

KaleunMarco 11-20-20 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archduke (Post 2708233)
In the most recent attack, I hit her with 4 torps, spread across her side. 1 of them was set to explode under. All hit within 10 seconds of each other. Generally, I find that most merchants can be sunk by 1-2 torps. For a ship of that size, 4 isn't unreasonable.

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157

100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEdition_v1.24_EN

i perused the damage profile (.dat) and i cannot see anything unusual so the issue is probably something subtle and will take more in depth analysis.

the easiest fix is to juice up your Mk14 torpedo effect.

or just live with the failure. (being facetious here)

:Kaleun_Salute:

succerpunch 11-22-20 04:44 AM

Why am I getting hydrophone contacts on the surface. Only got the mod and patch installed?

Mios 4Me 11-22-20 11:33 AM

Ghost Patrol
 
Trout, departing Midway 2/17/42 to patrol Hokkaido:

1. Ordered to "return to base or patrol area of your choice" after only one assignment, and that a dismal failure without any worthwhile contacts (perhaps any, as I habitually ignore boats). I definitely do not object to these orders; it's just that I've never received them under such conditions.

2. Working a contact in heavy fog at night in the bay near Aomori, early March 1942, the watch crew were transparent above the lines of the boat. The eyes, creepily, were solid.

3. The contact, a Kaga-class (I know, I know, but the original went down last patrol) was the only ship in the entire bay, harbor included. Perhaps not a bug, but suggestive. FWIW, there was no traffic in the Tsugaru Strait at all, only N-S at the western end.

Known issue: a ghost Kaga quickly generated after the first went down in very shallow water. Reported only in keeping with the ghost theme. :)


4. Contacted an unreported TF SE of Shikoku at night. Bow torps missed at long range; closed to under 2000 m at flank below the thermal layer and mortally wounded the lone CV, a Shokaku-class. Escorts ignored us the entire time, even when filing a contact report while still inboard of one oblivious DD.


Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Games\steamapps\common\FotRSUE\MODS]

100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEdition_v1.21p_EN
101_Patch_v1.2To_v1.26p
301_MoreDifficultAI01
302_MoreDifficultAI02
399_NoScrollNavMap
452_MoonlightzSonarLines
901_Strategic_Map_Symbols

Computer specs as previous.


ETA: three attempts to reload the last save CTDed. This is only the second patrol after deleting the folder and the fuel/battery gauges actually worked on that patrol (very rare), but could the file be corrupted so soon? I played through the entire patrol without ever exiting or interruptions from Win10p, plus created the two save points after letting the game run more than a minute at normal time.

WH4K 11-23-20 12:41 PM

I was offered a Tench upgrade again upon return to Midway (late April 1945). Again, accepting meant CTD whenever I tried to start a patrol.
Sadly, I had to re-load from just before arrival and refuse the upgrade. :(


I'll be setting aside SH4 for a while once I finish winning the war this time. Going to concentrate on some other hobbies for a while and then see what's up. Thanks for the hard work and effort, modders, until then!

Oleander 11-23-20 02:35 PM

For some reason the download link for this mod is no longer working. The new window opens and closes but the download never starts.

Texas Red 11-23-20 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH4K (Post 2708868)
I was offered a Tench upgrade again upon return to Midway (late April 1945). Again, accepting meant CTD whenever I tried to start a patrol.

Hmmm, that is very weird. Gives me the compelling question of: Is it the mods fault or your own? :hmmm:
I had the same issue, but that was before the Tench was "active". I wonder if I had denied it and accepted a new one later if I would have gotten the same issue you have. :hmmm:

Mad Mardigan 11-23-20 09:03 PM

Re: Just an observation...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mios 4Me (Post 2708648)
Trout, departing Midway 2/17/42 to patrol Hokkaido:

1. Ordered to "return to base or patrol area of your choice" after only one assignment, and that a dismal failure without any worthwhile contacts (perhaps any, as I habitually ignore boats). I definitely do not object to these orders; it's just that I've never received them under such conditions.

2. Working a contact in heavy fog at night in the bay near Aomori, early March 1942, the watch crew were transparent above the lines of the boat. The eyes, creepily, were solid.

3. The contact, a Kaga-class (I know, I know, but the original went down last patrol) was the only ship in the entire bay, harbor included. Perhaps not a bug, but suggestive. FWIW, there was no traffic in the Tsugaru Strait at all, only N-S at the western end.

Known issue: a ghost Kaga quickly generated after the first went down in very shallow water. Reported only in keeping with the ghost theme. :)


4. Contacted an unreported TF SE of Shikoku at night. Bow torps missed at long range; closed to under 2000 m at flank below the thermal layer and mortally wounded the lone CV, a Shokaku-class. Escorts ignored us the entire time, even when filing a contact report while still inboard of one oblivious DD.


Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Games\steamapps\common\FotRSUE\MODS]

100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEdition_v1.21p_EN
101_Patch_v1.2To_v1.26p
301_MoreDifficultAI01
302_MoreDifficultAI02
399_NoScrollNavMap
452_MoonlightzSonarLines
901_Strategic_Map_Symbols

Computer specs as previous.


ETA: three attempts to reload the last save CTDed. This is only the second patrol after deleting the folder and the fuel/battery gauges actually worked on that patrol (very rare), but could the file be corrupted so soon? I played through the entire patrol without ever exiting or interruptions from Win10p, plus created the two save points after letting the game run more than a minute at normal time.

Just something I noted (thing noticed, highlighted in "DarkOrange"..), after reading the JSGME list...

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Games\steamapps\common\FotRSUE\MODS]

100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEdition_v1.21p_EN
101_Patch_v1.2To_v1.26p
301_MoreDifficultAI01
302_MoreDifficultAI02

399_NoScrollNavMap
452_MoonlightzSonarLines
901_Strategic_Map_Symbols

If not mistaken, shouldn't just 1 ''More difficult AI add in/on'', be activated & NOT both...??? :06: :hmmm: :06:

It may bear investigation, of going back, deactivate 1 or the other of them... then go & start a new career and see if that doesn't resolve the issues... just a suggestion...

Hope this helps...

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

Mios 4Me 11-23-20 09:32 PM

Good thought,MM, but I believe the effect is additive, IIRC. At least, it's gone unremarked on the other occasions I've posted that list.

milky 11-23-20 09:56 PM

Instructions
 
Sorry guys, but I am having a hard time just finding the PDF that tells you how to setup this mod compilation. I see about 25 different PDFs but is there not just a PDF that tells you what to do ...?

Mad Mardigan 11-23-20 10:15 PM

Re: Mod install...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by milky (Post 2708936)
Sorry guys, but I am having a hard time just finding the PDF that tells you how to setup this mod compilation. I see about 25 different PDFs but is there not just a PDF that tells you what to do ...?

Generally speaking, set up folder for SH4 Uboat Missions version 1.5, then in that folder, dropping into it MultiSH4, JSGME, download the following:

100_FalloftheRisingSun_UltimateEdition_v1.21p_EN
download, found here: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=5572

101_Patch_v1.2To_v1.26p
download, found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r2X...D0l4gKer3/view

Both listed on post #1

Then run MultiSH4, name the save folder 'FRS' or something to which you'll remember it going to this mod set up for SH4.

Then run the JSGME, allowing it to set up a 'MODS' folder in the main SH4 install folder.

After that, drop in the 2 mods above... ( After unzipping them, 1st... most important & making sure of grabbing the right folder for the mods in the unzipped folder, created after using 7zip or WinZip.. I highly recommend using 7zip, but.. that's just Me...)

After dropping in the mods into the 'MODS' folder, then using JSGME itself, to activate the mods in that order.

General advice, is to just use those 2 mods only... & NOT include any add on mods, found in the 'extras' I believe that folder got named...

After activating the mods, then use either 4GB patch or Large Address Aware ( aka LAA), to assign the SH4.exe access to using 4GB of RAM, while the game runs.

I recommend LAA, as it is a simple 3 step process... but again.. like with 7zip, that's just My own personal preference...

Hope this helps & is clearly described on how to install them...

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

les green01 11-24-20 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by succerpunch (Post 2708582)
Why am I getting hydrophone contacts on the surface. Only got the mod and patch installed?

what info i have gather only boat that couldn't was the s-boat rest of them had a sensor under the water

Macgregor the Hammer 11-24-20 10:27 AM

I have a question regarding IJN AI in the latest rev. Do the aircraft, escorts and convoys have a more robust radio 'network'? I was following a convoy for about 6 hours and they were steady on course. I had radar shut down and they were just out of visual range. I was overflown by an Japanese scout plane and all of a sudden the convoy changes course and takes on an evasive steaming pattern.

The only conclusion I could draw was the plane contacted the convoy. Was this a correct assumption? It's the only thing that changed. I'm almost certain that the convoy or escorts saw me. I've been through most of the documentation and I don't remember reading about this. Of course, I could have missed it.

Thanks,

KaleunMarco 11-24-20 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macgregor the Hammer (Post 2709020)
I have a question regarding IJN AI in the latest rev. Do the aircraft, escorts and convoys have a more robust radio 'network'? I was following a convoy for about 6 hours and they were steady on course. I had radar shut down and they were just out of visual range. I was overflown by an Japanese scout plane and all of a sudden the convoy changes course and takes on an evasive steaming pattern.

The only conclusion I could draw was the plane contacted the convoy. Was this a correct assumption? It's the only thing that changed. I'm almost certain that the convoy or escorts saw me. I've been through most of the documentation and I don't remember reading about this. Of course, I could have missed it.

Thanks,

yes, it is the correct assumption. it was the plane. the escorts' powers-of-observation are defined in one of the files in the CFG folder. if they saw you, both they and the convoy would have reacted.
:Kaleun_Salute:

Mios 4Me 11-24-20 11:25 AM

The powers-of-observation tables have some interesting values apparently. I once surfaced at night under clear conditions in between two CVs in an unusually widely spaced TF and ran at flank for several minutes trying to get into position for a beam spread. Both carriers remained as unknown radar contacts until I began the run-in on the one to port, yet when I switched to bridge view, they were very clearly visible, along with the escorts on their far sides. Submerging as I fired, neither reacted until the torps hit.


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