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XabbaRus 07-20-08 08:28 AM

Best race of the season. Massa snatched defeat from the jaws of Victory, MM almost lost it for LH....Good on Piqyet JR. Great overtaking by LH.

What was KR doing?

bert8for3 07-20-08 09:39 AM

Good race. Nice to see some passing decide things for once. Even though there wasn't much doubt that LH was going to overtake FM.

Thought for a while McL had bungled (again) the safety car period by not pitting LH. Although I was thinking that FM might not have had enough fuel to finish and might have needed a splash and dash. Turned out the reverse on both counts.

Had to do without commentary today. TSN (English), and which uses the ITV feed/commentators, here was running the British Open, so I had to watch the race on RDS (French TSN). Doesn't fuss me in the slightest if it's in French, but the local commentators plus the one guy they have at the race (and who despite 21st Century technology sounds as if he's talking from the far side of the moon via tin can and wire) are the worst commentators going (in whatever language). They spend half the race going off on tangents with no attention to what's going on on the track. So you get maybe 10% of the actual race commented, which leaves you kind of short on what's going on. Gotta remember not to watch on tape delay if this happens again, so that I can get the live timing feed.

End of rant ... although I must add that I wish the Hondas would get a decent paint job .... have I said that before? :D

That car cam from just behind and to the left of the driver's helmet is great.

Jimbuna 07-20-08 09:59 AM

Best race thus far by a long chalk.

Ten down, eight to go.....the momentum for the title should start gathering real pace soon.

mcf1 07-20-08 10:05 AM

It was a great race:rock:

XabbaRus 07-20-08 10:07 AM

If you go on the UK F1 forums though the Hamilton bashers are out. I don't get what it is with British people having to bash a successful Brit? Seems many prefer a Tim Henman type who is close but no cigar top o old chap what? As soon as they start winning then they start getting knocked. If this was a US driver with a chance of winning the TV shows over there and US citizens would be raving about him.

The point of contention seems to be HK opening the door for LH but it was harder for LH to pass him than it was for Massa...

Jimbuna 07-20-08 10:45 AM

Sadly IMHO it's a part of the British culture that has developed over the past couple of decades due to the lack of top sporting achievements on a consistent basis.

We never were any good at blowing our own trumpets and telling the world how good we are/were.

The best way to silence them is to win LH (fingers crossed).

XabbaRus 07-20-08 11:26 AM

I agree. Maybe GB would get the G back if we started blowing our own trumpets when we are good at something.

Jimbuna 07-20-08 02:59 PM

Rgr that http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...s/thumbsup.gif

http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img91/...britaincj6.gif

Konovalov 07-20-08 06:03 PM

Hamilton drove a faultless and superb race. By current F1 standards that was an ok race to watch. :yep: I firmly believe that Lewis will win the Championship this year. Ferrari should sack Massa at the end of this year. He is an overated driver and his alleged defensive driving against Hamilton was just plain terrible. What a little surrender monkey Massa is. :down:

However, I just watched my man Casey Stoner do battle with Valentino Rossi for 20 odd laps with nothing but an inch between them swapping positions numerous times. Rossi came out the victor for his first ever win at Laguna Seca. These two guys are just fantastic bike riders. Pitty that we now have to wait so long for the next race to come around.

XabbaRus 07-20-08 06:12 PM

MotoGP is a blast. I like Rossi, just so funny and his Italian accent cracks me up..he is so happy.

stoner is good too. He got a lot of stick from UK MotoGP fans when he won last year which was bad sportsmanship...IIRC he got Booed at Donignton.

stabiz 07-20-08 06:12 PM

Great race by Hamilton today! True Champion-in-the-waiting by Lewis on Hockeheim, no doubt. I dont particularly like either Mclaren or Hamilton, but what he did today was awesome. Kovalainen is in real trouble.

And what the ? is the matter with Raikkonen these days, he looks subdued or something.

STEED 07-21-08 06:47 AM

After two great races lets all hope Lewis as now turned a corner. LH, should be backed to the hilt by us Brits as he is the only one of the Brit drivers who is in there with a chance. :up:

Hitman 07-21-08 06:57 AM

Ineed amazing performance in both last races, and both with added difficulties :hmm: In GB it was the rain, in germany the disastrous team strategy. He raised over both and was simply imperial. As much as I hate him as a person, I admire him much as a driver. True he has currently the best car in the grid, but Kovalainen has it also and his performance is very different.

My only fear is that this association of best driver with best car spoils a part of the F1 fun in the near future, as it happened with Schumacher's golden years in Ferrari. :damn:

I hope they sack Massa and put Alonso in the Ferrari soon, as Kimi could have been "the" rival for Hamilton, but seems to have dilluted considerably. What a pity, as he was in my opinion the best driver of the current grid in his heyday.:down:

kranz 07-21-08 07:28 AM

this "F1" is total bull... Did you see how Hamilton overtook Kovalainen yesterday?He should be banned for at least two Grand Prix(whatever plural it is)I mean both of them. Poor Massa....

XabbaRus 07-21-08 07:40 AM

Please lets not have this argument.

Drivers race for the team ultimately and the manufacturers are more interested in the constructors points than the WDC therefore HK letting LH through was justified as LH was going much faster. In the interest of the team it made more sense to get 14 points than 9. In any case maybe Heidfeld and Kubica should have been disqualified for two races when Heidfeld obviously let a faster Kubica through back in Canada IIRC.

Poor Massa, he almost had it. I can think of several drivers on the grid who should be in a Ferrari before him.

stabiz 07-21-08 08:34 AM

This is teamwork, and I am no McLaren fan at all. They swapped places because Kovalainen had no chanse in hell to win the race, he is just to slow. As a matter of fact he has underperformed since his mega crash. He dropped 13 seconds to Hamilton after the swap.

Oh, and I would BOOOO as loud as anyone if Kovi was first and Lewis second when they swapped, but this was totally different. Mclaren wants to win, so the car that could threaten the ones ahead gets to do that.

kranz 07-21-08 10:52 AM

I agree with eliminating Kubica.I hate this guy.Dunno if you are familiar with some of his "golden words". In Poland he is regarded as a half-God sometimes. Back to LH-teamwork is forbidden. Sure he was faster but they didn't even pretend to make it a bit "spectacular". Kovalainen slowed so much that it was ROFL.Sorry. Back to Massa-was it in Monaco where he had sooo great advantage and they put a Safety Car due to some morons on track?

antikristuseke 07-21-08 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kranz
Back to LH-teamwork is forbidden.

No it isnt, team orders for one to let the other pass are, however.

XabbaRus 07-21-08 03:06 PM

I'm also sure that the exchange was given in a way where HK had to make his own mind up. In fact if you look at the replay HK caught LH out, pulled over with LH not really suspecting it as he was following him in and had to duck inside at the last moment.

kranz 07-21-08 03:49 PM

hmm-I'm not gonna argue with you but those two tards who talk about race in one of polish channels say that it is forbidden.

back to overtaking-I doubt he didn't see LH.Was it right turn?If some1 get a map of the track who could discuss it.I have a gif file but don't know how to post it:damn:


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