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kvbrock82 05-09-09 10:18 AM

sure is :O:


will have to suffice until i can afford a gaming rig i suppose!

Stormende 06-19-09 04:16 PM

Try
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jail (Post 1096076)
:oops::oops: someone enlighten me wich keys to show framerate SH3. Im curious about my old 7900gtx card. Has made a profile for sh3 in video settings.


The combo keys is CNTRL + F8 but the displayed # is quite small and crappy. Try FRAPS, the FPS reading is bigger and more stable to display.

Hitman 07-02-09 07:06 AM

Quote:

Du hast mit Sicherheit eine Nvidia-GraKa, den genau da gab es diesen UZO-Bug, welcher aber mit aktuellen Patchstand nicht mehr auftreten sollte. Sofern du die Kampagne spielst, kann es schon gut sein, dass du in dem befohlenen Planquadrat kaum/keine Kontakte hast, dampfe nie mit voller Kraft rum, dann haste nach den 24h im Zielgebiet noch genug im Tank, um zu einer der Routen gemäß beiliegender Karte zu schippern.

Ich hatte meine Kampagne damals mit dem kl. Boot (gleich 1939) angefangen und bin auch einige Male leer ausgegangen, aber du bekommst ja auch ein paar Punkte für da Erreichen des Zielgebietes, die dortige Patroullie und das Erreichen des Heimathafens. Also ganz cool bleiben und in Ruhe Erfahrung für die Besatzung sammeln und auf nen gescheites Boot hinarbeiten :)
Bitte auf englisch schreiben, denn sonst verstehen nicht alle was du sagst. Danke :salute:

TRANSLATION: Please write in english as otherwise not everyone will understand what you say. Thanks :salute:

karamazovnew 07-25-09 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman (Post 1127543)
Bitte auf englisch schreiben, denn sonst verstehen nicht alle was du sagst. Danke :salute:

TRANSLATION: Please write in english as otherwise not everyone will understand what you say. Thanks :salute:

See what you've done? You've scared him.... :o

Arclight 07-26-09 02:59 PM

Scare a bot?! How do you do that? :D

Pretty sure it was a bot, anyway. :hmmm:

msalama 09-07-09 03:01 AM

A small but IMO important piece of info for anyone using the GeForce 7800 GS: use old drivers or you can't get the AA to "stick" in the game regardless of what you do! I found this out after reinstalling SH4 / RFB after a wee break, having meanwhile gotten me the most recent set of drivers from NVidia of course :nope:

I'm using v84.21 with nHancer now, and it all works magnifico again :up:

trojanfoe 09-11-09 06:49 AM

Periodic return to desktop then return to game
 
Hi all, I am having problem with the SH4 + U-boat missions in that it sometimes stutters then returns to the desktop for 30 secs and then returns to the game. The error message in the Windows Event Log indicates a driver error (not at the system right now, so cannot quote directly).

When I first installed SH4 I was getting this consistently within the Museum, particularly when I zoomed-in and strafed around the largest British warship. I followed the OPs suggestion and used the program he described to set-up the global nvidia settings and it went away. I have now started a mission and I am getting it periodically, so I guess this did not solve it completely.

My system: Windows 7 x64 (RC1 - build 7100), Dual Core E8400 (3Ghz), nVidia 9800 GTX, 6GB PC6400 RAM. No overclocking anywhere. Latest nVidia drivers from Windows Update (190.xx - .20 I think, maybe .02)

Does anyone else have this problem?

Cheers,
Andy

trojanfoe 09-12-09 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trojanfoe (Post 1170113)
Hi all, I am having problem with the SH4 + U-boat missions in that it sometimes stutters then returns to the desktop for 30 secs and then returns to the game. The error message in the Windows Event Log indicates a driver error (not at the system right now, so cannot quote directly).

When I first installed SH4 I was getting this consistently within the Museum, particularly when I zoomed-in and strafed around the largest British warship. I followed the OPs suggestion and used the program he described to set-up the global nvidia settings and it went away. I have now started a mission and I am getting it periodically, so I guess this did not solve it completely.

My system: Windows 7 x64 (RC1 - build 7100), Dual Core E8400 (3Ghz), nVidia 9800 GTX, 6GB PC6400 RAM. No overclocking anywhere. Latest nVidia drivers from Windows Update (190.xx - .20 I think, maybe .02)

Does anyone else have this problem?

Cheers,
Andy

I have now installed Windows 7 RTM (build 7600) and the latest nVidia drivers from www.nvidia.com (non-beta 190.62) and the problem persists. I am testing using the Museum and the only improvement is that the stuttering takes longer to kick-in and most times doesn't result in a temporary return to the desktop.

Anyone else seen this issue?

Cheers,
Andy

TopcatWA 09-12-09 07:13 PM

This may be already posted elsewhere, but I haven't been able to find it as yet.
Has anyone who has an SLI setup on their PC played the game in SLI enabled mode?
If so what settings do you use & do you get good frame rate performance?
I have been playing the game (both SH3 & SH4) for quite awhile with my SLI setup disabled & using the nHanser setup, but now would like to try the SLI enabled setup to see what improvement I can get.
I am running the latest nVidia 8000 series drivers v.190.62 dated 21Aug09.
I have tried using the SLI Performance Mode 'force alternate frame rendering 2' setting which does increase the frame rate considerably (60-80fps) but using this setting displays the SLI performance band strip on the left hand side of the game screen which is annoying & when using the nVidia Global setting reduces the frame rate performance by half.
If there was a way of getting rid of the SLI band on the screen when using the forced setting it would be good.

Cheers

Captain Dave 09-13-09 09:14 AM

Here's my settings. I'm running 2 EVGA 7600 GT cards in SLI, on a ASUS A8N-SLI Premium mobo. A Opteron 185 dual core processor. 2 gig of memory. It's an old but good system. I run SH4 full tilt with no problems. A 22 inch wide screen set at 1680 x 1050. I haven't seen the SLI thing on the left side of the screen.


Anisotropic Filtering = Application controlled
Antialiasing - Gamma Correction = On
Antialiasing = SLI8x
Antialiasing - Transparency = Multisampling
Conformant Texture Clamp = use hardware
Error reporting = Off
Extension Limit = Off
Force Mipmaps = bilinear
Multi-Display/mixed-GPU acceleration = single display performance mode
Sli Performance mode = Force alternate frame rendering 2
Stereo display mode = Use verticle interlace monitor.
Texture filtering - Anisotropic mip filter optimization = Off
Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample optimization = On
Texture filtering - Negative LOD bias = Clamp
Texture filtering = Quality
Texture Filtering - Trilinear Optimization = On
Threaded optimization = On
Triple Buffering = Off
Vertical Sync = Use the 3D application setting

TopcatWA 09-13-09 07:27 PM

Hi Captain Dave,

I have tried your settings but still get the SLI band on left of screen.

If anyone knows how to get rid of it, it would be appreciated.

Cheers

TopcatWA 09-13-09 07:41 PM

After a bit of fiddling around I eventually found how to get rid of it.
Very simple -at the top of the nVidia Control Panel screen you see
a toolbar with

'3D Settings' tab next to 'File, Edit and View', from the top left CP Window.
Simply uncheck 'Show SLI Visial Indicators'.


I often wonder why the most simplest of tasks are sometimes the most diffiicult to do

Cheers:up:

Captain Dave 09-14-09 08:06 PM

I probably turned that OFF years ago and forgot all about it.:hmmm: Don't get old, man.:zzz:

Webster 09-14-09 10:34 PM

its off topic but im upgrading my system and thinking about the video card (i have 1 8800gt 512mb) so can someone tell me why anyone "needs" more than one video card? nobody has every given me a good answer except to say "you just do" which to me only means its because everyone else does it.

skip the bench marks and impressing the boys bit but really, i've seen single card rigs work great and i dont see any benefit to running 2 or even 3 cards when one good medium to high end card is cheaper?

i've never had a single card not do everything i could ask of it so whats the point having more cards other than lightening your wallet? what am i missing here?

Arclight 09-15-09 07:28 AM

It's for the ultra-high crowd; Multi-GPU setups scale better at high resolutions. If you want to run everything at the max possible resolution, with all bells and whistles + Super Sampling AA & 16xAF... well, at least for the dual/triple high-end card setups; there are more sensible applications:

If you have a motherboard that provides the needed 32 PCI-E lanes, SLI/Crossfire doesn't have to be expensive. Just get 2 9800GTs, and your performance will come close to or equal a GTX275/285, for less money.

The main drawback is the entry price; powerfull PSU for 2 cards and MB capable of full SLI/Crossfire (those 32 lanes). Your electric bill will suffer too.

I agree though that 2x GTX 295 (or even 2x GTX285) is just silly, and very costly. Just a matter of preference. ;)

Webster 09-17-09 12:23 PM

ok, so running 2 medium level cards brings you the performance of a high end card at less price but more power is used so your accessaries (psu, mobo, and case cooling) must all be beefed up.

now i understand it better, and yes thats what i was thinking about. when i see them get 2 or 3 of those high end cards. to me it was pointless for anyone to spend that much $ unless you get some great reward from it. i guess if your running a 36" or higher monitor then maybe it could make a difference but not something i think is good for the smaller desktop monitors.

i could build 2 or maybe 3 high end computers with med-high end single video cards for what i see them spending on those multi high end video card rigs.

sorry about getting off topic :oops: i just figured you guys were the ones to ask

TopcatWA 09-27-09 06:40 AM

I have another question on SLI setups.
Is anyone out there using the latest nHanser 2.5.1 (64-Bit) & getting good graphics & frame rate when playing SHIV?
I have tried this with SLI enabled & cannot set it up with recommended
settings from posts on this topic & cannot find in this version anything suitable.
I've got the latest nVidia & framework drivers (64-Bit) but keep on getting
compatabilty errors in the Windows/Systems32/NvApps.xml files -
error in document (838, 47).
When I do a search for this document, nothing comes up in relevant.xml file.
Game runs ok using the nVidia Control panel settings with SLI enabled using Capt. Dave's settings without running nHanser but with it running on similar settings doesn't improve things especially the frame rate.

Cheers

Arclight 09-27-09 09:36 AM

:-?

It was working fine (nHancer 2.5.1 64b on Win7), but now it doesn't start, giving the error you described. Seems like some Windows-update screwed compatibility, could try rolling back. :doh:

seaB 10-04-09 09:54 PM

SH4 main menu video settings set at highest level did not make a great picture for the game; mainly there was jagged edges.

I just tried nHancer yesterday.
I first thought I don't want to choose "Global" because that will affect all my other various PC game video settings.
I just want to set it for SH4.
I'll went straight to making a nHancer SH4 Profile.
I could not get it to work and thought this nHancer advise is rubbish.

I then tried using the Nvidia Control Panel > 3D Settings > "Manage 3D Settings"
or
"Use the advanced 3d image settings" > "take me there" >"Global Settings" > tweaked it = SH4 has NO Jaggies anymore.

I thought if that works so must nHancer.
I reset Nvidia 3D settings to 'Let the 3D application decide".
I opened nHancer.
I used the Global settings as described by #1 post and it worked perfectly = SH4 no more ugly jaggies.
The graphics are now very exciting! :DL

I think it is very important in this discussion to include what size you pc monitor + resolution, video card etc, is
so no doubt can be put on poster's worked or not worked replies = mainly eliminating jaggies.
I think I only read 2 posts in this long 12 page #282 post thread that mentioned monitor size / resolution.
I was beginning to think that it could only work for smaller sized monitors therefore lower resolutions.
I read somewhere that SH4's native resolution / what this game was optimized for is something like 1080 x 768.
It has to get enlarged / scaled-up to play on larger monitors which causes the jagged edges.

My monitor is 22inch - native resolution is 1680 x 1050.
Pentium 4 3.0Ghz.
2 GBs RAM
Video Card - Asus EN 9500 GT OC - 500MB RAM.

This nHancer works on my system.
A bit of a nuisance though having to install the .Net Framework 3.5 beforehand that nHancer needs to work.
I think modern Nvidia driver with tweaked Global settings works just as good too with my PC specs.

Arclight 10-04-09 10:32 PM

Did you assign the game's .exe to the profile you made in nHnancer? Should work fine. Just set the global profile to "best quality", should disable some speed optimizations enabled by default. :hmmm:

Nvidia's CP also has profiles btw, you don't have to set global to get it to work.

Imho resolution is irrelevant these days since everyone decided to limit themselfs to only 1 by getting LCD's. :nope:


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