hmmm ok
i read through most of this thread, and i have to admit that i kinda changed my mind about the sf thing.

i would never have thought that the problems i am experiencing with my current dvd drive would be related to sf.
the inability of my drive to autostart anything, wasnt realy worrying me, but for quite some time now, i cant watch any dvd movies anymore. after inserting a dvd movie, it just starts spinning up, without recognising the disc. i have to use the dvd drive of my flatm8 to watch movies.

installing and playing games does work tho.

Maybe the SF driver update solves the problem:
http://www.star-force.com/support/sfdrvup.zip

It´s a new version, archive date is November 3th.

Sigh... fools.

was browse-ing my local supermarket's game section yesterday and saw the new game "King Kong" (based on the film) gave in to a impulse buy not noticing that it was a UBI game --

on arriving home i read more closly the info on the back of the game box and lo and behold found this warning--
///////
NOTICE;

this game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some CD-RW, DVD-RW, and virtual drives

//////


it allso comes with it's own starforce removal option on uninstalling the game (which i very quickly took advantage of) i will wait for an ummentionable to become available

so there you go; the debate surrounding wether or not SF does or does not negatively effect some drives is officialy over

Yipeee!


:/\rlz: :()1:

:up:

yup now i know they're posting a warning on the game boxes i can check before buying in future--

the next issue is wether or not the drive manufacturers will continue to replace hard drives under warranty if the user has previuosly installed a game containing this "technology"

after all from this moment on it is no longer the hard drive manufacturers responsibility if their product is damaged by external end user use off potentaily damaging software---

so why should they continue replacing hard drives under warranty if it is demonstrately not their fault that the driive has developed faults or died altogether?

and if the hard drive manufactures view this as a voiding of any garantue they may have provided for their hard ware -then will the game manufacturers or Starforce them selves be responsible for compensating repairing or replacing drives thus damaged? they have shown little interest in doing this so far--

i give it three months before the whole thing goes tits up

Hi CB,

Did you read one of my earlier posts where I said type in Google "Starforce problems" and you will see lots of forums/articles related to this, it seems there are a lot of games where the users are having problems as mentioned above.

I said a long time ago that if all these gripes about SF turn out to be true, expect a massive class action suit in the US.

You just cannot distribute harmful and damaging software to people who only want to play some games on their computer and then get away with any damages done because of a small print disclaimer that the software might be hazzardous to your PC's health.

Sick 'em, attorneys at law! :rock:

Yup Col the whole thing smacks of "middle management" guys getting out of their depth-- badly thought through, badly executed and utterly stupid--

as Avon Lady says-- now they have in fact admitted responsibility via the warning given on the latest game box- they haven't got a leg to stand on--

the fact that they HAVE issued the warning shows just how idiotic the whole concept was to begin with-- just what sort of world do they live in--did they seriously imagine that no one would complain?

mind bogglingly short sighted

Let's form our own J.A.G.! :D :D :D

Relating to this post..
Texas Sues SONYBMG!!!

http://apnews.myway.com//article/200...D8E14D480.html


Also if you click on the above link you will see the man that is HELPING US! OK I let the cat out of the bag...I have been bombarded with emails....
SO yes Mark has agreed to do some testing. He is the man that found out about what SONY was doing!!!!



He said he is going to purchase SHIII to find out what he can.

STAY TUNED!
As we all know not everyone seems affected. So my hope is that he is!

Also Aaron McKenna said he has not heard from Toms Hardware on future testing yet. I will keep all of you posted as normal.

If you want to get on my email list since I get so many emails
Shoot me your email in a pm ok?



SC

Anything new?

more and more games are now carry-ing the printed warning about drive incompatibility

Hi All hope you all had a Great Thanksgiving .... For those of you in other coutries hope you had a good (whatever you have) too! :up:

I wrote Mark yesterday. Have npt heard back but hey its a Holiday so....I will keep you all posted ASAP when I hear anything!

;)

Hello all...Some breaking info!!!!!




Wanted you to see this post this guy seems to know whats going on........and is the latest post that really sheds some light on things!
Be sure to check out his webpage too. I can't share what he told me in a personal email but I know this gentleman is on the up and up! PLEASE do READ THESE!!!!!


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...2871061083/p/5

Scroll down slowly to 13thhr !!!!

Also the forum moderator comments on SHIII forum BE SURE TO CHECK THIS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums...3/m/4001086693

I will keep you all updated as normal.

SC