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ikalugin 05-29-19 04:36 PM
The core market that Elon is targetting is actually the financial institutions. And the financial institutions are interested because shaving microseconds of latency on their internet connections (as Elon's space network is going to be faster than the classical trans ocean fiber cables) would earn them billions via automatic, algorithm powered trading.

So it is not even about providing cheap access to the internet for the poor nations so they could develop faster through the use of new technological means.

And to be honest I am not sure how costly those networks are in the grand scheme of things, after all modern space craft tend to serve for 5-10-15 years and we all know how long people use their gadgets before buying new ones.

bstanko6 05-29-19 07:20 PM
Time to pull out the aluminum hats! They’re after me again!

Rockstar 05-29-19 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2611994)
The core market that Elon is targetting is actually the financial institutions. And the financial institutions are interested because shaving microseconds of latency on their internet connections (as Elon's space network is going to be faster than the classical trans ocean fiber cables) would earn them billions via automatic, algorithm powered trading.

So it is not even about providing cheap access to the internet for the poor nations so they could develop faster through the use of new technological means.

And to be honest I am not sure how costly those networks are in the grand scheme of things, after all modern space craft tend to serve for 5-10-15 years and we all know how long people use their gadgets before buying new ones.

I'll tell ya this, they try to make it appear to be a kumbya moment for global internet access. But I doubt it has much to do with providing for the poor and children of the world. Hope these global warming fanboys will put their money where their mouth is and help put a stop too this. Elon simply provides what the public wants, remaining quite is no different than granting permission. I have absolutely no objection to space exploration in fact I say we need to dedicate ourselves too it. But consuming resources for 12,000 plus LEO satellites and polluting the night sky by 2027? Oh hell no.

ikalugin 05-30-19 06:22 AM
To be honest I do not see why this is a big deal. We make 1,5b smartphones a year, this means that over the lifespan of such a system we would make over 15b or around one million smart phones per sattelite. This is ~20t of smartphones without chargers, packaging etc per satelite and it's related launch. Packaging is the core cause of waste polution in the world, smartphones include toxic components, etc while sats when decay get disposed in a nice fiery death. What is more wasteful?



But then I support the RKS's idea of creating such constelation of their own.

Rockstar 05-30-19 03:34 PM
From the perspective of a novice astrophotographer it's big deal. Some of my most cherished memories are laying on the flightdeck at night mezmorized by the heavens above and the amount of light it produced. These days with the amount of light pollution and now the prospect of 12,000 plus satellites cluttering the sky we are missing out on a lot.

ikalugin 05-30-19 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2612123)
From the perspective of a novice astrophotographer it's big deal. Some of my most cherished memories are laying on the flightdeck at night mezmorized by the heavens above and the amount of light it produced. These days with the amount of light pollution and now the prospect of 12,000 plus satellites cluttering the sky we are missing out on a lot.
Well then you have a special interest in this matter :)


Plus if you live in the city light pollution is probably a more important factor than dusk/dawn effects of moving sats.

Platapus 05-31-19 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2611989)
How much more energy will be required and consumed, how much more ore, rare earth and precious metals will be excavated, how much more by-product will be produced from these launches? Just so people with no life can facebook. I guess the environment can take a back seat to this so long as everyone has internet access to rant about it. :har:

Posted on an Internets Forum... :shifty:


jus sayin

Onkel Neal 01-08-20 02:38 PM
SpaceX rolling out Starlink
 
This will be huge for folks who don't live in the cities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giQ8xEWjnBs

Onkel Neal 01-10-20 07:42 PM
A New Launch. Every two weeks.
https://www.businessinsider.com/spac...k-works-2020-1

Onkel Neal 01-12-20 04:07 PM
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/...ellite-br.aspx

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On Monday evening, January 6, SpaceX successfully launched its second "official" Starlink mission, carrying 60 satellites into orbit aboard a Falcon 9 rocket. In addition to the 115 operational satellites put into orbit on previous launches, this gives the company about 175 operational internet satellites in orbit today.

Assuming SpaceX continues putting satellites in orbit at a rate of 60 satellites per launch (and doesn't attempt to accelerate deployment by using bigger Falcon Heavy or Starship rockets), 11 more Falcon 9-Starlink missions should suffice to surpass the 800-sat threshold for "moderate" internet coverage. At a planned launch rate of two Falcon 9 launches per month, therefore, Starlink should reach this goal by the end of June 2020. By the end of the year, Starlinks in orbit should reach 1,500.


Of course, the most important advantage SpaceX should get from its rapid rate of rocket launches this year is also the most obvious: less time to market.

A more rapid launch pace means faster deployment of SpaceX's Starlink satellites to orbit. That means the company can begin reaping the 60% operating profit margin that SpaceX expects to earn from providing broadband internet service from space sooner. By 2025, internal SpaceX documents show the company hoping to earn as much as $22 billion in annual operating profit -- most of it from selling satellite internet service.

And 2020 is the year it all starts to happen.

Catfish 01-13-20 04:53 PM
So Starlink would be available from everywhere in the world.. for free? Looks liek some countries will build a giant jamming device.. :03:

Sean C 01-13-20 05:00 PM
I just hope they're able to minimize the interference to astronomy as they said they will try to do. We have enough problems with light pollution on the ground - we don't need more up there.

Onkel Neal 01-19-20 01:05 PM
:up::up::up:
SpaceX successfully performed an escape test for the Falcon9 rocket, the test is meant to “demonstrate Crew Dragon’s ability to safely escape the Falcon 9 rocket in the event of a failure during launch.” Here’s what it looked like:


https://youtu.be/mhrkdHshb3E?t=736

Onkel Neal 01-19-20 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2644528)
So Starlink would be available from everywhere in the world.. for free? Looks liek some countries will build a giant jamming device.. :03:
No, not free. It's a service, just like other iSPs, except significantly better if you live out of the cities. :)

Catfish 01-19-20 01:46 PM
Just :up:


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