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August

11-19-15 09:59 AM

Interesting little tidbit I just learned about daesh:

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Daesh: This is a term the militant group hates. French President François Hollande has used it since the attacks Friday, and first used it in September 2014. It’s an Arabic acronym for “al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham.” It can sometimes be spelled DAIISH, Da'esh or Daech, a popular French version. The hacktivist group Anonymous and President Barack Obama have used the term since the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris. Thanks to Arabic wordplay, it could also be an insult. “Depending on how it is conjugated in Arabic, it can mean anything from ‘to trample down and crush’ to ‘a bigot who imposes his view on others,'" Boston Globe writer Zeba Khan reported in October 2014. ISIS threatened “to cut the tongue of anyone who publicly used the acronym Daesh, instead of referring to the group by its full name,” the Associated Press wrote in September 2014.

http://www.ibtimes.com/isil-isis-isl...erence-2187131

Rockstar

11-19-15 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2359733)

OK, I laughed at that one.

Roughly 80% of every planning is exit strategy. Whether it be an ambush, bank robbery, prank ringing of the doorbell or assasination.
Terrorists have no exit strategy except getting killed.

That's why they're so hard to detect. There's no observing the guard routes, no purchase of more specialised equipment (smoke grenades, police radio receivers, fast and capable getaway vehicles), no detailed floorplans of targets for knowing back exits, no testing the police responses (it's always a few minutes wherever you are and then it's a firefight).
Europe is not some weapon barren wasteland, just go east and buying an AK is like buying a used car.

9/11, that one was planning and logistics.
This one was: here's a gun, kill as many as possible before you're martyred.

True, a professional soldier values life particularly his own and looks foward to the day he can go home and grow old. These attackers look at life and death much differently than most. There is no need nor desire to plan an exit strategy they are religious zealots for them martyrdom (death) is the highest honor.

Oberon

11-19-15 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2359806)

The UK are to send HMS Defender to escort the French carrier and provide air defence.

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Originally Posted by CaptainRamius (Post 2359829)

Ooh, nice. Maybe it can use some Tomahawks to take out some extremists too.

That's if we have enough money to load the Tomahawks... :doh:

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2359837)

Interesting little tidbit I just learned about daesh:

http://www.ibtimes.com/isil-isis-isl...erence-2187131

Why do you think I've been calling them that for the past couple of months? :03: As the Abbott said, probably one of the few sensible things he said: "Daesh hates being referred to by this term, and what they don’t like has an instinctive appeal to me." :yep:

Heck, even the Iranians call them Daesh. :yeah:

Betonov

11-19-15 12:22 PM

Daesh it is :)

Meanwhile, Bosnia and Herzegovina, yesterday at 19:30 local time two Bosnian soldiers were killed and one wounded along with 3 more civilians wounded. The soldiers were unarmed at that moment.

The attacker, Enes Omeragić, fled to his home and blew himself up after the police special forces surrounded him.

The attacker has supposed to have been fighting in Syria and was a member of the vehabin, another extremist group.

Mr Quatro

11-19-15 12:30 PM

I think the intel groups in France know more than they are admitting:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...risk/76036204/

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French Prime Minister Manuel Valls warned that France could face chemical or biological terror attacks. He did not say whether there was a specific threat.

"We must not rule anything out. I say it with all the precautions needed. But we know and bear in mind that there is also a risk of chemical or bacteriological weapons," Valls said, speaking to parliament ahead of the state of emergency vote. "The macabre imagination of the masterminds is limitless."

U.S. and Iraqi intelligence officials told the Associated Press that Islamic State has a branch seeking to produce such weapons.

I didn't see this on ABC this morning ... just found it on Fox: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/19...-terror-fears/

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Two separate reports of groups of America-bound Syrians detained below the U.S. southern border in recent days are raising concerns that Islamic State militants could be probing security – and stoking fears some may already be here.

Honduran authorities on Tuesday arrested five Syrians they said were headed for the U.S. with stolen or doctored Greek passports, but later said the men were college students fleeing war at home. On the same day and 1,800 miles north, two Syrian families were taken into custody at a border checkpoint in Texas.

Oberon

11-19-15 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2359892)

Damn, that's unfortunate news, inevitable but still unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2359895)

I think the intel groups in France know more than they are admitting:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...risk/76036204/

I didn't see this on ABC this morning ... just found it on Fox: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/19...-terror-fears/

The French intel services knew something was up, presumably chatter had either died down or gone up, but it's very hard to pinpoint where and when such a thing is going to happen unless the co-ordination is done in a manner in which the intel services can pick it up and decode it.
It's a bit like the days before Pearl Harbor, the US knew that the Japanese were preparing something but didn't know where exactly it would come from.
The situation in the UK is similar, we've been on a high state of alert for nearly a year now, and plots have been foiled, well...so we're told anyway, but sooner or later, something is going to slip through the net.

August

11-19-15 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2359892)

Daesh it is :)

I'm sure her worshipers are very happy not to be accidentally associated with such gutter trash. :yep:

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/authors/...20Isis%202.jpg

Oberon

11-19-15 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2359917)

I'm sure her worshipers are very happy not to be accidentally associated with such gutter trash. :yep:

Indeed:

http://i.imgur.com/uQ2JrbC.jpg?1

Betonov

11-19-15 01:37 PM

I'm honestly a lot more affraid of Hydra than Daesh.

eddie

11-19-15 02:20 PM

Looks like they are adapting to the bombing campaign! Lots of tunnels and shelters found in Sinjar.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/elaborat...jar-1447895191

CaptainRamius

11-19-15 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 2359931)

Looks like they are adapting to the bombing campaign! Lots of tunnels and shelters found in Sinjar.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/elaborat...jar-1447895191

Are you saying that some of our air strikes might have been doing nothing to them? Just what we need now. Another nutty, but good, idea by ISIS.
:shucks:

mapuc

11-19-15 02:28 PM

Said by the Danish Politician Naser Khader(born in Syria)right now on Danish TV

It is a myth that we have stopped daesh-They control an area the size of Great Britain the are very near Damascus.

I'm not in doubt he know a lot more than I do, so what are we bombing ?

And furthermore are our politician talking with two tongues ?

Tongues 1. We fight daesh hard with massive bombings

Tongues 2. We have to be careful-in case daesh should win and they have the control of all the oil in the middle east=must have a "nice relationship" with daesh

Guess I'm just "talking in the sleep"

Markus

CaptainRamius

11-19-15 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2359935)

I think it would be better for humanity if we didn't go with the latter :D

mapuc

11-19-15 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainRamius (Post 2359938)

I think it would be better for humanity if we didn't go with the latter :D

I can't be the only one who, after have watch lots and lots of news throughout the years and read lots and lots of news paper throughout the years and heard lots and lots of Politicians and expert saying this and that throughout the years and of course read many of your brilliant posting, been thinking

Are we really fighting daesh or not ?

Markus

Betonov

11-19-15 02:39 PM

What about napalm or thermobaric bombs at tunnel entrances.
To suck oxygen out of the systems ??

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