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Armistead 12-18-12 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1977977)
I agree with AVG Steve. You'd have made a great Psychologist. :salute:

Do you have a newsletter? I wish to subscribe! :D


Steve should have a sticky at the top

"Doctor is in"

It could be Susbims way of giving back to the public gratis...

AVGWarhawk 12-18-12 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1978047)
Steve should have a sticky at the top

"Doctor is in"

It could be Susbims way of giving back to the public gratis...

Steve would be very busy around these parts. :haha:

Armistead 12-18-12 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1978048)
Steve would be very busy around these parts. :haha:

Yea, nothing better than a good dose of online Prozac. I think we need our own version of "Dear Abby". I know I have issues I would like to discuss.

AVGWarhawk 12-18-12 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1978052)
Yea, nothing better than a good dose of online Prozac. I think we need our own version of "Dear Abby". I know I have issues I would like to discuss.

:haha:

August 12-18-12 02:59 PM

It's not violent video games.

It's video games and movies and TV and a weakened family system and poor adult supervision and a lack of discipline and an emphasis on fame (good or bad) as the measure of success, and a thousand other things that we have allowed to creep into our society.

Like I said we wash our kids in virtual blood from cradle to adulthood and then wonder why some, not all, but some, become fixated with it and then some of those, again not all, act upon those fantasies.

If violent media had no effect then there would be no such thing as copy cat crimes. People see or hear about an event and that inspires them to act likewise. It doesn't affect everyone that way certainly but even one out of a million is 300 potential Adam Lanzas in America alone.

Platapus 12-18-12 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1978107)
It doesn't affect everyone that way certainly but even one out of a million is 300 potential Adam Lanzas in America alone.

When you put the statistics in that context, its pretty scary. :yep:

Tribesman 12-19-12 02:20 AM

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When you put the statistics in that context, its pretty scary.
When you transfer those statistics doesn't it mean europe should be having more school shootings than america?
After all it has the same media the same video games the same family breakdowns the same celebrity nobodies(it even has some countries where corporal punishment is really illegal:03:) .
So why isn't it producing 500 potential Lanzas to Americas 300?

Given that we are told that we don't understand your gun culture and are often reminded that so many Americans consider guns as a really important thing does it suggest that where all the other factors are relatively equal the problem lies with the one thing that we are told is very different?

AVGWarhawk 12-19-12 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1978526)
When you transfer those statistics doesn't it mean europe should be having more school shootings than america?
After all it has the same media the same video games the same family breakdowns the same celebrity nobodies(it even has some countries where corporal punishment is really illegal:03:) .
So why isn't it producing 500 potential Lanzas to Americas 300?

Given that we are told that we don't understand your gun culture and are often reminded that so many Americans consider guns as a really important thing does it suggest that where all the other factors are relatively equal the problem lies with the one thing that we are told is very different?


Gun ownership is a right afforded by the Constitution. There is a gun culture as you suggest. Normally called gun clubs. I don't see guns as important. I believe the right to own one is the important part of the equation. Not the actual gun itself. Why is it not producing 500 potential Lanzas to the Americas 300? Perhaps it is but the tool to accomplish what Lanzas did is not present. People kill people. Guns just help them do it.

I don't understand your "very different" comment. Can you clarify?

August 12-19-12 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1978786)
I don't understand your "very different" comment. Can you clarify?

He's just trolling for trouble. Don't expect a decent answer.

The truth is that Europe and the US are very different. In demographics, culture, history, approach to health care and government makeup.

And as the Norway, Hungerford, Miami Showband, Kingsmill, the Remembrance Day bombings, Vukovar, Greysteel, Dunblane and Omagh killings show they have their share of massacres as well.

AVGWarhawk 12-19-12 10:51 AM

Yes, it would seem these occurrences happen just about everywhere. The method a bit different but the same end result.

Armistead 12-19-12 04:40 PM

Gun Dealers have to love this mess when they talk about banning guns, the one up the road has sold out of assault weapons and clips. However, I see Dick's is going to no longer sell these type guns....

Dowly 12-20-12 02:19 AM

Totalbiscuit released a video yesterday, giving his opinion on the link between
these shootings and violent video games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwAo8lcAC4

Tribesman 12-20-12 02:45 AM

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He's just trolling for trouble. Don't expect a decent answer.
Since you are just a troll who repeatedly lies because you cannot make a point that is very funny.

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And as the Norway, Hungerford, Miami Showband, Kingsmill, the Remembrance Day bombings, Vukovar, Greysteel, Dunblane and Omagh killings show they have their share of massacres as well.
What a strange mix of events, well done , you even manage two decent examples from a 25 year period which can actually fit what you need to say, I wonder if a 2 year period would provide 25 American examples which would all fit:hmmm:

So onto someone sensible....
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I don't understand your "very different" comment. Can you clarify?
What are we repeatedly told in topics like this is "very different" about the USA?
If you take Augusts list of different which is unsurprisinly actually very wrong you should be able to spot the thing that is missing.

AVGWarhawk 12-20-12 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1979495)

What are we repeatedly told in topics like this is "very different" about the USA?
If you take Augusts list of different which is unsurprisinly actually very wrong you should be able to spot the thing that is missing.

Guns and the mentality of owning guns is very different from other cultures that I have dealt with directly, indirectly or read about. But that may not be what you are talking about. What is the topic? Precisely what portion of the topic that is missing? It might be time not to use "riddle me this" to spot the thing that is missing.

the_tyrant 12-20-12 09:46 AM

in America ita crackpots with guns, in chija your crackpots use knives, in Japan your crackpots use poison gas

its the crackpot that we should focus on, not the tool.


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