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Chavez speaks:

http://english.eluniversal.com/2011/...on-libya.shtml

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In a message posted on Thursday evening on his Twitter account, Venezuela's President Hugo Chávez voiced his support to Libya and said that Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi was facing a civil war.

"Let's go, Foreign Minister Nicolás (Maduro), give another lesson to the far-right Yankee supporters! Long live Libya and its independence! Gaddafi is facing a civil war!" Chávez wrote at the end of a session at the National Assembly (AN), where some Venezuelan ministers gave an account of their 2010 management, DPA reported.

As appears from this message, Chávez would join Cuba's Fidel Castro and Nicaragua's Daniel Ortega, the only leaders in the region in support of Gaddafi. The Libyan ruler faces a popular revolt where the death toll reaches hundreds of Libyans.

In September 2009, on the occasion of the Africa-South America Summit held on Margarita Island, Chávez decorated Gaddafi and presented him with a replica of a sword used by Venezuelan independence hero Simón Bolívar.

:x:down: Standing up for the common people indeed.

http://www.hudson-ny.org/1914/libya-outrage

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Obama and many others in the international community have been quicker in condemning settlement construction in Israel than atrocities by Arab dictators against innocent civilians.

Has retired South African judge Richard Goldstone considered the possibility of heading a special commission of inquiry to look into the war crimes that are being perpetrated against Libyans and other Arabs?

Settlements may be a problem, but they are not more dangerous than the massacres that are being perpetrated against Arabs.

It took President Barack Obama nine days to condemn Col. Muammar Gaddafi’s massacres in Libya as “outrageous” and “unacceptable.”

It took the UN Security Council more than a week to hold a closed-door meeting and issue a tempered statement condemning the violence in Libya and calling for its immediate end and for those responsible to be held accountable.

This is the same Security Council that one week earlier held a special and open session to condemn construction in Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

Fourteen out of fifteen members of the council voted in support of the anti-settlement resolution, which was vetoed by the US.

The same members, however, saw no need to hold a vote on the slaughtering of thousands of Libyans by Gaddafi.

But both Obama and the Security Council stopped short of calling for Gaddafi’s removal from power for perpetrating atrocities against his own people.

The Europeans have also been cautious in their response to the carnage in Libya. They too have refrained from calling for regime change in Libya.
One can understand why Americans and Europeans are worried about their economic interests in Libya, especially with regard to oil. It is also likely that the West is embarrassed about its relationship with the Libyan dictator who, despite his crimes, was welcomed back into the international community in 2003.

Then, Gaddafi was apparently forgiven for his role in the Lockerbie plane explosion and support for countless terror groups in the Arab and Islamic world. Gaddafi was forgiven because he had agreed to abandon his nuclear ambitions and promised to be good..

Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, on the other hand, who for over 30 years served Western interests in the Middle East and did his utmost to preserve the peace treaty with Israel and support moderate Arabs and Muslims, was thrown to the dogs by the Obama Administration as soon as his people started demanding regime change.

Obama and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton seem to be more troubled by the death of 300 Egyptians than the brutal massacring of thousands of Libyans. Obama and Clinton seem to be more worried about construction in Jewish settlements than war crimes and serious human rights violations in the Arab world.

The US Administration and the rest of the international community have once again sent a message to the Arabs that they do not really care about human rights and democracy and that they are ready to sacrifice thousands of Arabs to keep the oil prices as low as ever. Mubarak was unfortunate because his country does not have oil.

Now at least the Arab people know that they can no longer rely on Obama and Clinton to support any of their pro-democracy movements

The whole process has gone too slowly

Latest from Gaddafi:

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"We shall destroy any aggression with popular will," he said. "With the armed people, when necessary we will open the weapons depots. So that all the Libyan people, all the Libyan tribes can be armed. Libya will become a red flame, a burning coal."

This can only end badly, and all the while the UN dithers about what to do.

Libya revolt: Tripoli braced as Gaddafi arms supporters

People in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, are braced for further battles after the country's leader, Col Muammar Gaddafi, said he would open weapons depots to arm his supporters.

The evacuation of thousands of foreign workers continues by air, by sea and overland, but some remain trapped.

The US has blocked transactions involving the assets of Col Gaddafi and some close associates.

The UN estimates more than 1,000 have died in the 10-day-old revolt.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12587078

Note: Update Record,26 February 2011 Last updated at 12:12 GMT

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf (Post 1606816)

...and all the while the UN dithers about what to do.

But that's what the UN does best.

Well,RAF are in shape

RAF Hercules planes rescue 150 from Libya desert.

Two RAF Hercules have rescued about 150 workers from the Libyan desert, as protests against Col Gaddafi continue.

The planes, carrying Britons and other foreign nationals, have reached Malta.

Meanwhile, the last government-chartered flight on which Britons could escape has left Tripoli and the British embassy there has suspended operations.

However, it is thought that some 300 British citizens remain in desert camps in Libya and a Royal Navy frigate is heading to the port town of Benghazi.
'Military assets'

BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner said the "extremely complex" operation to rescue civilians from the desert had taken days to plan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12588947

Note: 26 February 2011 Last updated at 20:52 GMT

Libya: UN Security Council votes sanctions on Gaddafi

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12589434

Note: Update Record,27 February 2011 Last updated at 08:36 GMT

Libya unrest sparks refugee crisis at Tunisia border

Libya's border with Tunisia is being overrun with migrants, many of them from Egypt, fleeing turmoil in Libya, aid workers say.

A UN refugee official told the BBC that 20,000 Egyptians were stranded and needed food and shelter. Many are sleeping in the open despite the cold.

Some Egyptian refugees staged protests shouting: "We want to go home."

About 100,000 people have fled anti-government unrest in Libya over the past week, the UN estimates.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12591935

Note:Update Record,27 February 2011 Last updated at 19:36 GMT

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1608355)

Thank you Reuters.

Yes,and.....?

Gaddafi hideout found,

Here plundered Gaddafi house

http://i.imgur.com/TSR7G.jpg

Things keep shaking up over there, there won't be any place left for refugees to run. :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 1608647)

Things keep shaking up over there, there won't be any place left for refugees to run. :hmmm:

He has some places in the desert as the last outpost, if he does not leave the country otherwise

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1608651)

He has some places in the desert as the last outpost, if he does not leave the country otherwise

I'm referring to the Libyan and Egyptian refugees running to Tunisia. If the flames of revolution continue to spread across North Africa there won't be any place left for them to go, except deeper south into Africa or north across the Mediterranean. :yep: