Hans:

For the moment, yes, there are reasons to keep it sticky.

U-BOOT_HAHD Official Thread
 

well I haven`t forgotten , or been blinded by the light ,[ good song by the way ], but I suppose we still have these guy`s .


Living Silent Hunter III V5
NYGM 3 Super-mod released (Current 3.5)
War Ace Campaign 4.1
GWX (Grey Wolves eXpansion Mod) 1,2, & 3
the Russian mod
SH3 Warship MOD
Operation Ursula campaing megamod
Sboot Mod
Silent Hunter 3 Retarded - Nazi Cocaine [? ya I know but ?]
U-boat III [ jcwolf ], I ,II & III ,
type XXIII mod
and there must be others that I have missed , [I know I have missed other`s someone please update me ], as they all helped us to get this far.
by the way I like to use early GWX 1.? or is it 2.0 ? . [sorry can`t help it must be the game play
[still looking for those old single player missions]

Why SH3+ is the best U-boat sim ever made? To know us (mods and moders) better
“ Improvise, adapt and overcome”
"Oo-rah"

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Dear Mr Witteman

I would like to support you fully in your new venture for the following reasons:

1. The SH4 engine is technically superior and offer greater possibilities.
2. Although I've always loved SH3 most in the series, I'm confident that SH4, given the same love, will yield better results.
3. This is YOUR project, that YOU are leading and putting blood, sweat and tears into.
4. It's only a game, and although some will surely be disappointed, you are not forcing them to wait on your final release (which ever platform it may be on).

Seriously, I wish you all the best on this. Was looking forward to the SH3 release but I'm pretty sure things can only get better with this decision. And I will continue to follow this thread once it's moved. Programming moves on. So must we, lest we play ignorant.

Best regards!

@ NGT: Your post is a good one, and well thought out. I will make one comment.

I thought that is what he was doing here. And he has said that if enough of his team members objected he would drop the idea and stay with SH3. I think that was honest and fair enough.

Hi mate,

I know you are a die hard fan of SH3 and i am to, i defend this platform since the beginning but i was just listening to what most people were wishing to see in this mod specially the water shader .

For having a discussion with team it is exactly what i am doing here in thread with you guys and i mention that your decision is crucial to a yes or no and if it is no then we will finish it completely for sh3 and after it is release we port it to sh4 with the team members that are willing to do so.

You sound bitter and i would like to know the main point why SH4 is a totally no go for you at least explain the main reasons so we can make a wise decision.

Best regards Hans

Hi NGT,

1. You are member in Subsim from September 2008, 3 years now.
Affirmative
2. You started a megamod for SH3, with a sticky thread.
Affirmative but not 3 years ago
3. You created a special web site for this megamod.
Reaper created the website
4. Other members joined to you in this way, for a megamod for SH3.
Affirmative but most are gone now

The first thing i found strange from your intervention here is that you never come here as long as i can remember and now you come to bash me on the head for working like a horse to please everybody and all this for free!

You have to be kidding me for acting like a child.

I like intelligent discussion to make thing progress in the right direction not bashing people.

If at least this post was from a regular supporter i would understand better.

Best regards Hans

I'd suggest carrying on with the SH3 work while building towards an SH4 Team.

You will need to do Occlusion and Bump things for SH4 and that demands the skills (And software) to do so.

The SH4 part of the Team could start on conversions while the SH3 Team stays the course on the SH3 version.

Part of the SH4 Teams goal should be conversion of some of the Add-ons many miss in SH4, while work goes on.

You should also assign a Team leader for the SH4 Group.
Keep the Teams somewhat seperate from one another or things get confused really quickly.

As Kapt. of the Boat?
You assign the Officers.
They report to you.

Hi shipmates,

I want to make myself clear on the recent talk regarding porting our work to SH4 because some people don't understand that i want to start an intelligent and productive discussion on what would be the most appropriated pateform to yield the best result for our vision of a quality supermod.

Making point like what would be feasible and what would be a total deception.

My goal is not to upset people but to give the best possible experience to all and all this for free!

So please act like gentleman and talk with tact and diplomacy or else don't comment and throw dart on my picture instead.:k_rofl:
Best regards Hans

Got to agree with you 100% there Fish, I've been following this project since day one. Now I feel I just had the rug pulled from under me :cry:

@Hans please finish this up first mate.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

Hi mate,

I agree with you on this one fish in the water made a very good point on that.

Since i start the whole thing my only goal was to make it better all the way down and when i saw the possibility in SH4 i got excited.

So we will stick with SH3 and finish this port and then we will start a port to SH4 this sound like the best way to please everyone.

Thank for your support it is always a pleasure to see you here.

Best regards Hans

Panic is an easy fire to feed.
That is the reasoning behind my last posting here.
To help avoid the panic many jump to.
:up:

I would suggest you get an SH4 Team setup as quickly as possible.
There is a momentum built up now that you should take advantage of.

What are the reasons that people are reluctant to go to SH4?I wonder if its as big a deal as many feel it is.Sh4 has some good stuff added and with some work can really shine.Look at the beauty of Sh5,with transparent water and the amazing looking wet effect look.It has the very kool typing of orders,the switch to choose start at port or at sea,the new crew management screen(better or worse??).What else is there and what does Sh3 have that SH4 does not??


While it seems to not have any effect it also has a new stat called flood_divetank(l/s) in addition to what is in Sh3 already......the flood_maintank(l/s) and leads me to my next point.What does Sh5 bring to the table and does it have stuff that would benefit HAHD even more?I will reinstall it and see tonite.

I mean,I see alot of talk here about how SH5 is nowhere near in function of SH3 but there are alot of good mods already showing that it will be very good in future.Please do not flame me as I only wanna see the tons of work that will go towards the Silent Hunter family games combine into one cohesive game engine so that chosen one will benefit fully.So now I ask why is Sh5 not even being considered?

Makman,you are the GUI guy and I must say this to you my friend.....you will never be finished modding.:rotfl2:You were the one who said it and its true.If you finished the GUI and the team is moved to SH4 then release it for SH3.......then start anew on SH4:03:Remember that SH4 HAHD is not a project that will be finished by Christmas....its a lot of work ahead and its good thing in the eyes of a modder.:DAll in all,whatever you choose I am a supporter....if that means anything.


EDIT...this post confused even me the writer of it.What I mean is choose wisely the engine so that the huge task at hand is on the best engine possible.Remember HAHD is not just the TypeII and there are many Uboats to make still.

Hi mate,

Yep i saw the wildfire starting to spread all across that thread people are so emotionally Tye to a version that they can't see the possibility of other version capability.

I would love to gather a team for SH4 like you are proposing but since i made the post to assemble such a team no one seem very active anymore on SH4 ato forum.

We will see after a couple week if they show up.

Best regards Hans