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Gorpet 03-08-22 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2797837)
Well. Maybe a new line of work opens for Assassins down there.
:hmmm:

Ya know what, I think i'm going back to some family land that we own in a valley in southern West Virginia in Logan County.

Jeff-Groves 03-08-22 07:28 PM

That's south of Chapmanville right?
Closer to Welsh?

Gorpet 03-08-22 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2797837)
Well. Maybe a new line of work opens for Assassins down there.
:hmmm:

Ya never know, Jeff joe biden has stated he has put millions of people back to work.

Jeff-Groves 03-08-22 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2797842)
Ya never know, Jeff joe biden has stated he has put millions of people back to work.

Give them time and several BILLIONS will be going to work as War Fighters!
(That's the politically correct term for Cannon Fodder)

Gorpet 03-08-22 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2797841)
That's south of Chapmanville right?
Closer to Welsh?

No, Sorry Jeff where the few acres on mountain side that i can retreat to is not up for public consumption.

Jeff-Groves 03-08-22 07:58 PM

Let me just say I know Thunder road.

Gorpet 03-08-22 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2797843)
Give them time and several BILLIONS will be going to work as War Fighters!
(That's the politically correct term for Cannon Fodder)

Yes ,we are in agreement there.

Gorpet 03-08-22 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2797845)
Let me just say I know Thunder road.

And, i would say, some do and a lot don't. Maybe i just got it confused with this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvaEJzoaYZk

Jeff-Groves 03-08-22 08:14 PM

I've done several projects down in that General area.
:03:

Reece 03-08-22 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2797831)
Only because it's in alphabetical order.
:haha:

No!! We came before Albania, mind you it's probably in Russian alphabetical order!! :doh: Either way we were still first!!! :O:

Gorpet 03-08-22 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2797849)
I've done several projects down in that General area.
:03:

Well my friend, May you live long and prosper, i myself have accepted retirement.

Skybird 03-09-22 02:20 AM

Ukrainian Ambassador Melnyk: "Tears ran down my face after conversation with Lindner".

07:01: Ukrainian Ambassador to Berlin Andrij Melnyk reported a conversation with German Finance Minister Christian Lindner (FDP) shortly after the outbreak of the Russian war of aggression. "I had the feeling that he was looking more at the balance sheets than at our suffering. But maybe he has to. As finance minister. For me, anyway, it was a knock-out. I then broke off the conversation," Melnyk told the current "Spiegel" magazine. "I don't cry often, but after the conversation with Christian Lindner, the tears just ran down my face."

The Ukrainian ambassador in Berlin repeatedly appears as an admonisher who does not shy away from clear criticism of politicians in Germany. He commented on the expressions of solidarity for Ukraine by Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania's Prime Minister Manuela Schwesig, for example, saying, "The hypocrisy of Manuela Schwesig sucks." Schwesig had previously long defended Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania's close contacts with Russia and advocated the commissioning of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. He said of Norbert Röttgen in the Spiegel interview, "Norbert Röttgen is one of those who always say the right things but never do anything."

In contrast, he praised Vice-Chancellor and Green Party leader Robert Habeck. After a visit organized by Melnyk to the so-called contact line in eastern Ukraine, Habeck had called for Germany to supply Ukraine with defensive weapons before the German elections. But after heavy criticism, including from his own ranks, he then rowed back. "He has said he deeply regrets not having stood his ground," Melnyk told Der Spiegel. "He had pity. Real pity. Not the consternation that the others show."

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Skybird 03-09-22 06:47 AM

The Chernobal nuclear powerplant is without external electricity since bombings have destroyed overland powerlines supplying the plant with power.


The shift working there is on duty since two weeks, the Russians do not allow shift crews to rotate.


Recipe mix for deasaster. Human error meets failing cooling.

Skybird 03-09-22 07:02 AM

Are these subtle changes in tone a sign for possible hope? Over the past days, Kremlin speaker repeatedly had missed demands and phrases that before were invitably part of the propagandistc barrage of demands. But recnrtly, "Denazificaiton" and "de-militarization" have been dropped for the verbal bombardement. And a few hours ago Zelinski ndicated he may be willing to negotioate about neutrlaity of the Ukraine if the US and Turkey and neighnourign countries guaranmtee its natioanl soverignty and integrity and Russia must recognise these.

And now this:

Russia says it is not seeking a change of power in the former Soviet republic with its war against Ukraine. The goal is "neither the occupation of Ukraine, nor the destruction of its statehood, nor the overthrow of the current leadership" under President Volodomir Zelensky, says Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, according to the state agency Tass in Moscow.

A slow, subtle chnage of tones, ohrasings, and messages.

The world is sitting on a slide towards global desaster,a nd even a nuclear war is not off the table. And hope is no strategy, i say that myself often enough. Nevertheless: lets hope this means something.

But one should not forget the lessons from Syria where the Russians lied and lied and lied and lied and lied, over escape corridors to poltical goals. Lies, lies and more lies.


Meanwhile the German economy minister wanst to rule out extension for the runign time sof the remaining nculear reactors over here. He claims the legal obstacles were not to overcome, personnel could not be had, and experts tell him it cvnanot be done. But experts and runnign comnpanies insist that nothign nof that is true and that it abslutely could be done. With the lectricity form these, both idniustrial produciton as well ass electrioty-based heating could be maintained. But it is satan's most malicous child: nuclear energy, so it should not be: to please a single party'S ideological DNS that is more important than the common interest or the solving or cataclysic problems in the present.
Experts even say that the kjust switche dof powerpalnts could be reactivated again, that they are not yet emptied of their fuel, and the specialied experts and employees would be willing to come back to run them and work in them. But Habeck knows it better and says he knows it cannot be done. It cannot be what according to Green ideology should not be.



Experts also have severla times said now that the govenrment's claims an immediate stop of gas imports cannot be maintained, are wrong, and that Germany could shoulder this, althogh it would be an effort and wopuld be expensove. The greens do not want it for one reaosn, i stroingly suspect: if this is beign done, there no more manouvering space left for years to come for their beloved hobby of redesigning both energy and society according to their agenda.



They still prefer to burn Ukrainian blood in German ovens instead. Nice deja-vu, isn't it. Once again the Germans show that despite their claim they have not learned from their past - once again they directly assist the wrong side in a conflict like this. With every day, the import of gas and oil by Europe spills around one billion Euros into Putins war treasure chest. We could as well send him ammo and do some of the killing and bombing ourselves.



The UK wanst to wait with ending their imports until end of this year. Well. Not really a compliment either. The US has ended it, but I read nowhere so far when the ban starts. However, they import just 7-8% of their oil from Russia, so are not as depending.



I am totally enraged about this, since days. Its outraging. We all still pay Putin'S war day for day, around 14 billions since the bombing began. We directly financially support the war of Russia.

mapuc 03-09-22 07:42 AM

It's not only Russia who's using these Thermobaric weapons

Just read in a twitter comment that the Ukrainian army is using a smaller version

They use this one

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Note that the 72nd Mechanized Brigade of the Ukrainian Army has already put the Danish-delivered M72 EC launchers into use (EC means Enhanced Capacity, can penetrate up to 450 mm RHA), along with UK-supplied NLAW and Ukrainian RPV-16 Thermobaric.
http://www.military-today.com/firearms/rpv_16.htm

Markus


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