Yeah, these days there's plenty of blind allegence on both sides, I agree. I bet if ol Trump had started the pandemic with a sense of hypervigilance about social distancing and wearing masks, all the Trump worshippers would have followed along. We have exactly the opposite situation we have now, with all the lefties screaming about personal freedoms.

Well, you might be missing the non far righties shake their heads and wonder why those that are extreme right think everyone else is a 'leftie.' :shucks:

I have to disagree with Trump supporters following along with Trump if he was hypervigilant with masks/distancing. Trump has taken the vaccine. He urged all to take it and expressed the safety of vaccine. He has taken credit for the vaccine creation yet the worshippers do not take the vaccine.

The dynamics of lefts now is off the charts. For such fun loving people they portray themselves many stated if one has not gotten the vaccine and are infected the hospitals should not treat them.

Well, the 'off the charts' attitude you are attributing might be more akin to witnessing anti-vaxxers filling up all available beds in hospitals resulting in stroke and heart attack victims not being treated. Guess it might be odd to see a sense of 'personal responsibility' being suggested to those who claim that they are the only ones who take such.

Sorry bud, your argument does not wash. The heart attach victims should have stayed off the bacon and cigarettes. The stroke victims with clogged arteries from bacon wrapped hams every week should have thought better. maybe some exercise. They are taking up beds for COVID patients.

You're actually blaming the stroke and heart attack victims for the Covid wave? SMDH. Perhaps you need to wash your own argument some more.:06:

No. Bacon(fatty foods), cigarettes, alcohol, lack of exercise and countless other things people do that are detrimental to their health. You are so for picking and choosing because there is a vaccine available yet people don't take it and go to the hospital when infected. Same could be said for the dopes that don't take care in their eating habits. Exercise. Smoking. Drinking. Read it again.

So, if a guy who drives 100 mph knowing the damage he could cause to others and himself in an accident should be turned away at the hospital because he knows better?

I read it the first time and the rationalization is faulty. Not all stroke and heart attack victims suffer due to bad decision making. Nor do all cancer patients. Every single unvaccinated (by choice) Covid victim made a poor and selfish decision. If left up to me I would definitely say the only bed Billy Bob 'fraid of needles' Jones gets would be a tent one set up far enough away as to not be a threat to the other patients in the hospital. If one can't take personal responsibility for the reckless decisions they make with endanger others then they should suffer the consequences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lFFsTzXdCU

I'm not talking circles with you all day. People of every walk of life have just as much right to a hospital bed as any other. This includes people who make bad choices, reckless decisions. No one is more special because the chose a different path than another. Get used to it.

I'm fine with you keeping your circular thinking to yourself. You don't really want to consider anything else, anyway. :up:

Less than 2% of people who get covid-19 die. Are you unfamiliar with the term personal risk assessment?

I'm familiar when it is merely 'personal.' Extremely infectious disease assisted by idiots who fear the needle more than killing off their fellow man because they just knew the odds were with them ... until they weren't and running to the hospital and taking a bed that wasn't going to filled with a voluntary vector, otherwise, was more of a necessity than making the stupidest political statement one could. It was a stubborn argument/real hill to die on but ... no wait ... apparently convictions have exceptions when it involves your own life (and, of course, other lives don't matter). :yeah:

You want to try that again in plain English?

:Kaleun_Applaud: :yeah:

It's worded easy enough for you to understand ... if you wanted to. :)