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TarJak 03-16-14 06:57 PM

Stay where you are. The black helicopters will be arriving soon to pick you up as you know more about the situation than anyone else.

Admiral Halsey 03-16-14 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2186773)
Stay where you are. The black helicopters will be arriving soon to pick you up as you know more about the situation than anyone else.

Ha Ha very funny. I was one of the first if not THE first person on here to state they believed the plane didn't crash at least right off the bat and I just wanted to gloat a little.

CCIP 03-16-14 08:21 PM

I don't think we dismissed the idea of a hijacking :O:
It's just the part about it being stolen and hidden somewhere that I still don't quite buy :hmm2:

Admiral Halsey 03-16-14 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 2186786)
I don't think we dismissed the idea of a hijacking :O:
It's just the part about it being stolen and hidden somewhere that I still don't quite buy :hmm2:

Well one of the potential paths takes it up north to Kazakhstan so it's possible. I don't buy the southern route for the plane since taking that route means it was either heading for Australia for some reason or who ever was at the controls aimed on crashing the thing but just wanted it to be harder for them to find it. I'm betting the thing landed in a Desert there and that's why we can't find it.

TarJak 03-16-14 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2186774)
Ha Ha very funny. I was one of the first if not THE first person on here to state they believed the plane didn't crash at least right off the bat and I just wanted to gloat a little.

Well played. So what? Until the Malaysian PM came clean with some of what they knew, everyone, including yourself were in the dark about what happened. Unless you're saying that you do know more about it than you're owning up to. :hmmm:

TarJak 03-16-14 11:25 PM

'Good night' issued from missing flight MH370 after tracking switched off http://ab.co/1cOFoUW

BossMark 03-17-14 02:20 AM

I read police have searched the house of the Malaysian Airlines captain in their hunt for the missing plane...

I'm no expert, but I doubt it's there.

MH 03-17-14 03:58 AM

Where is the friggin plane???? :doh:
:timeout::ping:

THE_MASK 03-17-14 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 2186851)
Where is the friggin plane???? :doh:
:timeout::ping:

Look out your window :yep:

Jimbuna 03-17-14 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 2186851)
Where is the friggin plane???? :doh:
:timeout::ping:

Hidden amongst my diecast collection.

Wolferz 03-17-14 08:11 AM

GTA VI Grand Theft Airplane
 
Time to install Low-jack systems on the fleet?:D

I can't believe the NSA didn't spot this coming. :roll:

Ducimus 03-17-14 08:38 AM

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps73243b43.jpg

Rhodes 03-17-14 10:24 AM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LmcfbBUx7c...3C!~~60_35.JPG

Herr-Berbunch 03-17-14 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhodes (Post 2186988)

Ah, McBee, I've been expecting you . . . !

BossMark 03-17-14 01:35 PM

Rescuers have found 2 women survivors from the Malaysian missing plane.

Flo Ting and So King Wet are said to be doing fine.

Aktungbby 03-17-14 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2185885)
My worst case scenario is that Zaharie Ahmed Shah, the pilot or Fariq Ab Hamid, the first officer "put his faith in God" as with Egypt Air's first officer a few years back and commandeered his own aircraft during the toilet break of the other officer in a copycat takeover, flown for hours, out over the Indian Ocean then ditched with all aboard. I'm not seeing how the phones would be collected in a depressure situation by any of the cockpit crew. I know the cockpit has it's own separate oxygen supply from the cabin overhead deploy masks. Further investigation of the cockpit crew would be useful perhaps...:hmmm: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/16/duncancampbell

Your humor is outstanding in a forum of international exposure fellas! :nope: Just a grim reinforce of my original post in today's WSJ:
As police investigate the two pilots of a Malaysian passenger jet that disappeared more than a week ago, a possibility they must consider — however remote and improbable — is that one of them committed suicide — and mass murder in the process.
While such incidents have happened before, the topic remains almost taboo, with investigators and officials reluctant to conclude that a pilot purposely crashed a plane in order to commit suicide even when the evidence appears compelling.
A dozen years ago, U.S. investigators filed a final report into the 1999 crash of EgyptAir Flight 990, which plunged into the Atlantic Ocean near the Massachusetts island of Nantucket, killing all 217 aboard. They concluded that when co-pilot Gameel El-Batouty found himself alone on the flight deck, he switched off the auto-pilot, pointed the plane downward, and calmly repeated the phrase "I rely on God" over and over, 11 times in total.
Yet while the National Transportation Safety Board concluded that the co-pilot's actions caused the crash, they didn't use the word "suicide" in the main findings of their 160-page report, instead saying the reason for his actions "was not determined." Egyptian officials, meanwhile, rejected the notion of suicide altogether, insisting instead there was some mechanical reason for the crash.
There was also disagreement over the cause of the crash of SilkAir Flight 185, which plunged into a river in 1997 during a flight from Jakarta, Indonesia, to Singapore, killing all 104 passengers and crew. A U.S. investigation found that the Boeing 737 had been deliberately crashed, but an Indonesian investigation was inconclusive.
Mozambique officials have been investigating a crash that killed 33 people in November. They say preliminary investigations indicate that the pilot of the Mozambican Airline plane bound for Angola intentionally brought it down, and they're continuing to look into his possible motives.
A 2014 study by the Federal Aviation Administration indicates that in the U.S. at least, flying remains a remarkably safe mode of transport and pilot suicide is a rare occurrence.
The study found that during the 10 years ending in 2012, just eight of 2,758 fatal aviation accidents in the U.S. were caused by pilot suicide, a rate of 0.3 percent. The report found that all eight suicides were men, with four of them testing positive for alcohol and two for antidepressants.
The cases ranged from a pilot celebrating his 21st birthday who realized a woman didn't want a relationship with him, to a 69-year-old pilot with a history of drinking and threatening suicide by plane. Seven of the cases involved the death of only the pilot; in the eighth case, a passenger also died.
"Aircraft-assisted suicides are tragic, intentional events that are hard to predict and difficult to prevent," the FAA's report found, adding that such suicides "are most likely under-reported and under-recognized."
In at least one case, a major international airline allowed a pilot who had expressed suicidal thoughts to continue flying. He flew nearly three more years, without incident, before he resigned in 1982 with severe obsessive-compulsive disorder, anxiety and depression.

Wolferz 03-17-14 02:46 PM

That really encourages me to fly bby.:up::yep:

GoldenRivet 03-17-14 04:03 PM

Pilot suicide by airplane eh?

Takes a special sort to plunge a plane load of people down with you... why not rent a cessna, or better yet just put a pistol to your head in the privacy of your own home? there are a lot of ways to off yourself without taking a couple of hundred innocent folks with you.

Sickening the thought of it. As a Professional in Aviation... Passenger safety is number 1, and i think that so few pilots would consider suicide by plane (one that is carrying passengers that is) that it is is such a low statistical anomaly that it wouldn't even rate.

I have heard of suicide by plane, I narrowly missed witnessing a guy plunge a small airplane straight down into the dirt as it was said to be "shedding parts" all the way down due to the forces at work against the plane far exceeding its design limits. The guy killed himself on purpose. (it was revealed that just an hour or so before his lover left him or some such motive)

I cannot stand before anyone and say it doesnt happen... but it happens with about the same frequency as Doctors intentionally murdering their patients.

On the whole, pilots are an intensely positive, can-do, achieve and overcome sort of people, realistic thoughts of suicide just normally is not entering into their thinking. Though there have been exceptions to every rule known to man.

I have to ask this though... if it was pilot suicide, why fly the damned thing a bazillion miles off course into some far off remote stretch of sea?

Most men contemplate suicide due to the actions of a woman... im not saying this would be the motive, but in the event that it is, most men who commit suicide do so to cause lasting trauma to a lover "See what i did because of you" sort of mentality... the thing in that case would have been to simply disconnect the autopilot at the proper moment, broadcast "This is for you Julia you rotten beeyatch!" and take her on down into the final descent.

turn the transponder off? no, why do that?

Disable the ACARS? if it was suicide, why? why do that?

this was done in a manner so as to conceal the act... commonly in suicide you want to make a show of it so someone or some group will know why you did it.

We have none of those indicators, so i think pilot suicide is not likely.

An expert on the news stated that the erratic flight path shortly after the aircraft was lost from radar could be a sign of struggle in the cockpit.

I want to throw out an assumption here that perhaps has not been considered.

Those two pilots were attacked, and during the struggle one of them attempted to turn back, the pilots died defending the flight deck and protecting their passengers, and whoever ultimately took over the plane had just enough knowledge to keep it aloft. they became lost and disoriented while trying to find their way to somewhere, such as a target, they exhausted the fuel and crashed into the sea way off course.

Dread Knot 03-17-14 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 2187128)

Those two pilots were attacked, and during the struggle one of them attempted to turn back, the pilots died defending the flight deck and protecting their passengers, and whoever ultimately took over the plane had just enough knowledge to keep it aloft. they became lost and disoriented while trying to find their way to somewhere, such as a target, they exhausted the fuel and crashed into the sea way off course.

Of course, that brings up the question of where were the passengers during this struggle. No one got off a phone call during this long meander to nowhere? It seems that whoever tried to take over the plane would have found themselves vastly outnumbered.

GoldenRivet 03-17-14 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2187129)
Of course, that brings up the question of where were the passengers during this struggle. No one got off a phone call during this long meander to nowhere? It seems that whoever tried to take over the plane would have found themselves vastly outnumbered.

It is quite a perplexing problem... with so many perks and amenities aboard the 777 aircraft like in flight sat phones and Wi-Fi... it seems like at least one passenger would have been able to place a call or send out an e mail or posted something to the internet - Something


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