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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2428326)

I think it may be one of the few universalities in the world. We all despise our various legislative bodies. :D

I love them all. After Spitting Image and Not The Nine O'Clock News called it a day, after The Onion fired all their satirists, after Monty Python was long gone, they are the only satire left.

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2428163)

Nope: Not definite: could be apnea:D two of my techs and one employer all wore masks at night and were grossly overweight. Eventually ...it became definite!:timeout:

Nope, despite attending many fatal injury traffic incidents, murder scenes, sudden deaths etc. etc. over the years I don't recall ever seeing a corpse that was breathing :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2428433)

Nope, despite attending many fatal injury traffic incidents, murder scenes, sudden deaths etc. etc. over the years I don't recall ever seeing a corpse that was breathing :hmmm:

As a person who have a very little knowledge about a persons body I can tell you a dead person do breath-not as we do-but in dosis and it can do so up to several hours after the person has died-it is the air from his or her stomach that are going out-either through the mouth or back.

Markus

As an IEMT, i was limited in my ability to declare someone dead. And for very good reason. Technically, I could never declare someone dead, but I could decide not to provide ALS support in only three situations. Naturally these rules may change between states. This is how we worked in Nebraska. I think our Paramedics could make the call, but IEMTs could not.

1. Decapitation
2. Gross thoracic trauma - followed by some pretty graphic definitions. Think heart over here and lungs over there type of trauma.
3. Advanced Decomposition over entire body

That was it. It is a pretty good list as it is highly unlikely anyone would recover from being in this state. Note that there is no mention of breathing or heart beat.

You really don't want EMTs to start declaring people dead. :nope:

This is why I had to start CPR on a person who was reported as having stopped breathing 45 minutes ago.

That is why we always start CPR in child drowning cases. :yep:

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2428433)

Nope, despite attending many fatal injury traffic incidents, murder scenes, sudden deaths etc. etc. over the years I don't recall ever seeing a corpse that was breathing :hmmm:

Me neither but By the Gods they can fart......:arrgh!:

Like Jim seen lots of 'bed doddies', probably too many :stare:

Cheers

gary

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2428487)

1. Decapitation
2. Gross thoracic trauma - followed by some pretty graphic definitions. Think heart over here and lungs over there type of trauma.
3. Advanced Decomposition over entire body

In the red cross we called those ''injuries incompatable with life''

I think life ends kind of like the Sopranos did...it just goes to black.

I'm asked if I have a 'living will' (a DNR ) My answer is, 'no, I want 'heroic measures'.

I've been revived at least three times - twice during surgical procedures and once while heading out the door after being discharged after a weeks stay for Sepsis.

The transport people asked my daughter what she wanted them to do and she answered, "he wants to live" - so into the ER we went. That was 10 years ago : )

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2427899)

There have been many claimed cases of persons "dying" in some sort of way, most often during some medical procedure (surgery, CPR, etc.) and there have been a wide variety of claimed "post-death" experiences. What has intrigued me about the vast majority of those reported experiences is how closely and neatly they dovetail with the reporting persons religious and/or philosophical beliefs; you almost never hear of someone coming back from "death" and waking up and saying "Wow, I and my belief system/religion are totally wrong!!"; is it possible the perceived experiences are nothing more than a situation akin to what a great many people have experienced many times when, having been exposed to an intense stimulus like a personal event, a movie, or some other sort of input, they will often incorporate elements of that exposure in their dream state during sleep? How often have you had a dream where parts of some event or situation have been replayed in your dreams? Isn't it possible a lot of those "afterlife" experiences are colored by lifelong religious or philosophical training or indoctrination and the resulting "afterlife" may be nothing more than the brain trying to adapt its perceptions to an existing framework, a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy? Basically, if you expect angels and St. Peter, you get angels and St. Peter; if you expect all your dead relatives meeting you on a long road, you get all your dead relatives meeting you on a long road; if you expect to be walking into a bright light, you get a bright light to walk into; if you expect a void, one void coming up! Whatever your particularly inculcated beliefs is what you end up with...

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What if our afterlife reality is formed based upon what we think it will bring today? Some think they will go live with Jesus, others will see their relatives, nirvana etc etc. Then there are those who think there is no life after they die and they will simply cease to exist. :hmm2:

The brain is well understood to release 'protective' chemicals, endorphins etc in times of stress of one kind or another. These, I've heard, can be very powerful painkillers, hallucinogens and suchlike and, as such, might certainly be expected to affect the experience of death, in whatever way it occurred.

That's my two penneth, except to say again that I expect to find nothing but oblivion after death, much as I'd love to find Paradise instead...

We know that some things can live after death, the heart, the lungs, the liver, the eyes ... if controlled by the surgeons and placed in another warm body that is :yep:

I have not signed that wavier on my DI yet though that they can have my left overs. What if they harvest body parts for profit or something like they do in some foreign countries?

I signed an organ donor card more than forty years ago. I recently signed it right on my drivers license. Problem is that at my age nobody wants them anymore.

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2428925)

What if they harvest body parts for profit or something like they do in some foreign countries?

If they're gonna do that, they'll do it whether you sign or not.

I'm a donor also and I have also wondered about just how much of me, at my current age, 65, or if I live to be older, would be of use for harvesting. Since I have no family at all and I rather expect to just quietly disappear from the general consciousness, I have been mulling over the possibility of also giving the option of donating my remains for medical use, e.g., med school cadaver, etc. If there is no use for my remains, then just cremate them and dispose of them as expeditiously as possible...

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen (Post 2428916)

That's my two penneth, except to say again that I expect to find nothing but oblivion after death, much as I'd love to find Paradise instead...

I really hope you are wrong. I hope that at least we will still have Skyrim.

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Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen (Post 2428916)

Your post brought to mind an incident in my childhood. When I was about 8 years old, I contracted a very severe case of the measles, with a raging fever. I was so out of it all, I apparently began to hallucinate; I only have a vague memory of the event, but I do recall seeing bright lights coming from points in the middle of my room, suspended in mid air; they were like the sort of light you see when a light source is reflected off a mirror. I also remember they seemed almost tangible, as if I could actually grab and hold on to the beams, which, according to my mother and my doctor I was trying to do. My mother, who was very religious, in her own way, and very superstitious, took the event as some sort of sign or omen; I never bought into that idea and, when the memory comes around at odd times, I still kind of wonder what the cause of the event might have been. Perhaps I was engaging in a pre-psychedelic era trip brought on by those protective chemicals you mentioned...

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