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mapuc 01-04-20 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2643173)
I dont foresee any grand escalation or invasion. I think we will just beef up security at our embassies and prepare to respond to any further threats.

In regards go the Straits of Hormuz I agree with Onkle its not that vital for us but it most certainly is for others. I'm guessing Denmark falls under 'other'

Denmark is like Norway, UK and other european countries an oil producing country..

I can't give any link, now that I use my smart tv as browser.


Markus

Tchocky 01-04-20 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2643173)
I dont foresee any grand escalation or invasion.


Check out the Twitter feed of the current President.

52 sites selected to represent the 52 US hostages.

Some selected for their cultural importance.

I mean that's a war crime, but I guess I don't see any grand escalation either.

:Roll:

Mr Quatro 01-04-20 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2643186)
Check out the Twitter feed of the current President.

52 sites selected to represent the 52 US hostages.

Some selected for their cultural importance.

I mean that's a war crime, but I guess I don't see any grand escalation either.

:Roll:

Come on Tchocky Trump is a card player ... It's just a warning :o

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"We have ... targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran" and "if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets... Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD," Trump wrote in a series of tweets.

Tchocky 01-04-20 07:36 PM

Well I'm just glad that level-headed people not prone to impulsive scattershot decisions are in charge

Mr Quatro 01-04-20 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2643193)
Well I'm just glad that level-headed people not prone to impulsive scattershot decisions are in charge

Are you waiting at the airport for your plane to take off? :D

August 01-04-20 07:50 PM

Yeah we're known for destroying sites of cultural importance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CYTcQUKTVY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWxszYK6IPU

Rockstar 01-04-20 08:00 PM

Published September of 2010. Is still a good read and I think it reveals what is going on now has much more to do with than just Iran. Especially when you consider the vast majority of oil shipping through the straits is destined for a certain particular Asian market. This situation we see today unfolding has been long in the making.

https://www.cna.org/CNA_files/PDF/D0023622.A3.pdf

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A Closer Look at China-Iran Relations
Roundtable Report

Participants discussed China’s strategic calculus toward Iran. One referred to a recent speech given by Chinese Middle East scholar Wu Bingbing at the Wilson Center, in which he summed up China’s strategy in the Persian Gulf region as follows:
1.
Refuse any single power’s unilateral control of the region
2.
Prevent the emergence of any anti-Chinese regime in the region
3.
Oppose formal support of Taiwan independence forces or other separatist forces in China by Gulf countries
4.Pursue potential support from the Gulf region for China’s foreign policy...

One participant argued that China is signing deals with Iran with a larger regional security strategy in mind, and cited a 2000 article by Tang Shiping in China’s influential Strategy and Management journal. According to this article, the United States already controls the west bank of the Persian Gulf through its proxy states, including Saudi Arabia and its smaller Gulf neighbors. This makes the Persian Gulf, in effect, an “internal sea” for the United States. Shiping argues, however, that if China and Russia were to build an “axis” of relations with Iran, they could maintain a “minimum balance” to thwart U.S. moves to embargo or control energy flows from the Gulf, since the success of such actions would require control over both the west and east banks...
Reading the report I'm beginning to believe we really upped the ante by targeting that Iranian General. Makes me think it was meant to send a seriously strong message to Iranian and Chinese leadership. You're next. Getting kinda scary now, huh?

Catfish 01-05-20 06:47 AM

^ Now that is scary :eek:

When Trump's will (is that the same what the US really want?) is to drive the whole Middle East into China's arms, he is doing a good job.

After all Iran has done nothing else than it did years before, so why now this attack? Wasn't pulling out of the nuclear deal enough to destabilize for now?

Trump "foresaw" (lol) Obama starting a war to win a second election. Didn't happen. Maybe Trump thinks it may help him. Domestic political problems use to get out of medial focus with a real war :hmmm:
Only that this Scrotus is a gambler, and what happens if he loses.

Jimbuna 01-05-20 08:13 AM

The Royal Navy have a meagre two warships on station in the Strait of Hormuz (HMS Montrose frigate and the HMS Defender destroyer) to help protect the flow of oil should they be necessary.

It would be nice if our European allies would also contribute.

mapuc 01-05-20 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2643237)
The Royal Navy have a meagre two warships on station in the Strait of Hormuz (HMS Montrose frigate and the HMS Defender destroyer) to help protect the flow of oil should they be necessary.

It would be nice if our European allies would also contribute.


Denmark is sending a Frigate, 1 helicopyer and 155 men.

They shall be part of an American task force.

From memory
Denmark(government) have made an option to send more stuff to the region if needed.

Markus

Mr Quatro 01-05-20 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2643237)
The Royal Navy have a meagre two warships on station in the Strait of Hormuz (HMS Montrose frigate and the HMS Defender destroyer) to help protect the flow of oil should they be necessary.

It would be nice if our European allies would also contribute.

France and Germany have agreed to join us if Iran retaliates ,,, :yep:

It's the Iranian people that I want to join us in seeing how corrupt their regime has become :yep:

mapuc 01-05-20 10:25 AM

(An off topic thought from the bible)

Are we heading towards Armageddon ?

End of an off topic thought...

Markus

Mr Quatro 01-05-20 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2643260)
(An off topic thought from the bible)

Are we heading towards Armageddon ?

End of an off topic thought...

Markus

No we are not, "Wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet in sight" Book of St Luke :yep:

Skybird 01-05-20 11:46 AM

Iraqi parliament voted for a resolution demanding that all US troops have to leave.

Rockstar 01-05-20 11:58 AM

Article I read said ALL foreign troops and everyone knows how that will work out. You go first, no you go first, no you go first, no you go first....




http://news.trust.org/item/20200105141444-bjkfk


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