What they should have done is create a real National Health Care system instead of this abortion we have now.

The high cost from a profit driven system with many snakes seeking to make a fortune.

The bigger issue is they're prolonging life at a cost that isn't sustainable.

We need a fix, Obamacare wasn't it......

I am just enjoying the outrage over obamacare, I have been talking about this monstrosity since the day it was passed, it is garbage, plain and simple.The disaster that is the "roll out" of this law further proves why the government has no business in such important matters, because they are not and never will be capable of running such a thing.Perhaps we will get a decent president and congress sometime who can rid us of this cancer, put a decent health reform law in place, until then, guess we are stuck with this pile of garbage.

What I think should have been done is an incremental restructuring of the health care system.

There are issues in which the GOP and the Democrats are in agreement. Things like getting rid of the pre-existing condition issue and purchasing insurance across state lines.

The Democrats should have concentrated on these isolated changes that both sides could agree upon. Make those changes and wait for the market/economy to stabilize. Then, incrementally, implement other changes and wait for stabilization. Rinse and repeat.

But no. The decision was to make drastic changes, without really knowing how the unscientific economy will react, and while at the same time isolating and antagonizing the GOP.

In my opinion, this was a very short-sighted and frankly stupid decision on the part of the Democrats. They. Blew. it. Were the Democrats so short-sighted that they believed that they would maintain the majority in both houses?:nope:

For the first time in a long time, the Democrats were in a position to work with the GOP on items that both parties were in agreement. But instead, the Democrats, now that they controlled both houses and the presidency, decided that now was their time to push a drastic plan. :nope:

Well, we have seen what happened. I don't agree with how the GOP has reacted to the ACA but I can understand it. I wish the GOP could put country before party, but I can also appreciate their reaction to a Democratic political slap in the face.

What pisses me off is that with a little maturity on the side of the Democrats, this could have been a small win-win issue.

As a result of how the Democrats handled this, we have two very unfortunate results

1. A health care plan that does not do what the Democrats wanted (watered down)
2. An engaged and motivated opposition party (GOP) that will do anything they can to "get even", now that they are the majority party in the house.

This was unnecessary, if the Democrats would have handled this better. Just because you have a majority does not mean that your side gets to dictate. It will work up until the next election and then if your side loses (as what happened in the house), all of a sudden you have a political party that controls the budget AND is pissed off. Not a good state to be in.:nope:

I despise what the GOP is doing, but in all honesty, the Democrats brought it on themselves. It could have worked. It could have been a win-win situation. But the Democrats got greedy and impatient. Two things you can't afford in politics.

Either there are no experienced political advisers in the Democratic party (doubtful) or , more likely, their advice was ignored.

I would like to see the ACA fixed. There is a lot that needs fixin. But if politically, due to the immaturity on both sides, this is impossible, I would be in favour of scraping the ACA only if both parties will agree to re-do the ACA II from scratch, but do it right. In my opinion, that means incremental changes that fix specific issues.

Right now, I feel that our Congress is nothing but a Confederation of Dunces.

The Dems really had a chance to address healthcare, but shoved this broken monster down our throats. That's the problem with govt doing about anything, they pass something totally broken, then spend years trying to fix it, instead of passing something that can work from the start.

The only healthcare package congress cares about is their own.:hmmm:

The entire law is imploding. Many are being cancelled with the policy they like. These policies are not up to the standards set by the ACA. No one is grandfathered in. Its simple math. Everyone needs to be shelling out a certain amount for this to work. Not sure when this law will really be studied and the ramifications of said law will be realized but it will take years to have any viable plan. The past three years to set up a website has been nothing short of abysmal. There was simply no forethought. It was hope for the best since day one. The administration should be ashamed. BO signature healthcare plan? Day 28 and nothing is working. :hmmm:

Insert Obama "Hope" campaign poster here.

So was "Change". You are required to change your HC plan because your current plan does not comply. Funny, the bait and switch was quite good on this one. By the way, Benghazi was just a riot over a video gone bad. :doh:

Honestly, many screamed how stupid the US looked as a result of the government shutdown. It pales in comparison to this launching of a signature HC plan. Sebelius should be shown the door.

Yeah, I agree, 3 years to prep a site and system, and with the initial response being lower than expected, how did the govt get it so wrong? Oh, yeah, it's the govt.

Well, I'm certainly surprised that all the young, idealistic Obama supporters are not buying into their new health care system with enthusiasm.:O:

Sticker shock. Many believed it would be free or darn near. The realty is the costs really cut deep into the beer fund. I was looking at MD's numbers. The state runs it's own HC site. A poultry 3800 have signed up. 85,000 where automatically enrolled into Medicaid. The balance sheets are not adding up. You know, there are websites that are already running and have been flawlessly for years. These sites sell HC insurance on the open market. All the major carriers competing. There was no reason to reinvent the wheel to push a mandate. The technology was already there. I believe many will fight signing up. Accept the fine. Many are feeling duped.

There are much easier and cheaper ways ....
to get a prostate exam.:timeout:

What what in the butt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

Is it all unraveling for President Obama?
Talking Points 10/29 - Bill O'reily
http://video.foxnews.com/v/278192283...esident-obama/

EDIT:
I'm beginning to think that the way things are going, the Republicans are going to start looking justified in obstructing Obamacare.