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Cybermat47 04-16-13 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by les green01 (Post 2042580)
im thinking about getting myself back in shape and run in the
boston marathon to show the people that did this that they cant stop us

:up: :salute:

TLAM Strike 04-17-13 12:05 AM

AQAP published instructions on how to build Pressure Cooker bombs in an article called "Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of your Mom" in the summer of 2010 issue of Inspire.

AQAP has made its tactic to encourage non-members to engage in Jihad against the US and its allies. This is the same outfit that had contact with the Fort Hood shooter.

Excerpt from the article, I removed some of the non-relevant technical information and highlighted the important parts.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3...rbombforaq.jpg

Bubblehead1980 04-17-13 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2042574)
Is it too soon to perhaps discuss the ramifications this will have on our rights?

Not minimizing the victims, just saying.

The Patriot act was born from 9-11. Considering how everything these days is politically polarized, I can only imagine in horror the crap that will be imposed on the citizens now...

I brought up the possible ramifications in an earlier post, it went to hell, but it should definitely be discussed as certain people will no doubt use this to further agenda of taking away civil liberties in the name of "security" like 9/11. Do you find how militarized that area of Boston became so quickly disturbing? Not with police really, but the feds.DHS etc The fact that the government can move in so quickly in large numbers and take over a large section of a major US city,Not trying to start an argument, just wondering if this bothers anyone else, it should.

Cybermat47 04-17-13 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2042658)
The fact that the government can move in so quickly in large numbers and take over a large section of a major US city,Not trying to start an argument, just wondering if this bothers anyone else, it should.

It is a bit disturbing, I'll grant you that.

Bilge_Rat 04-17-13 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2042658)
I brought up the possible ramifications in an earlier post, it went to hell, but it should definitely be discussed as certain people will no doubt use this to further agenda of taking away civil liberties in the name of "security" like 9/11. Do you find how militarized that area of Boston became so quickly disturbing? Not with police really, but the feds.DHS etc The fact that the government can move in so quickly in large numbers and take over a large section of a major US city,Not trying to start an argument, just wondering if this bothers anyone else, it should.

bringing up your right wing political agenda at a time like this is really petty. :nope:

eddie 04-17-13 08:06 AM

I don't care how many agencies are involved in helping out the victims of this crime, and in finding out who did this, and bringing them to justice.:yep:

Ducimus 04-17-13 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 2042703)
bringing up your right wing political agenda at a time like this is really petty. :nope:

How about the both of you zip it.

donna52522 04-17-13 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2042658)
I brought up the possible ramifications in an earlier post, it went to hell, but it should definitely be discussed as certain people will no doubt use this to further agenda of taking away civil liberties in the name of "security" like 9/11. Do you find how militarized that area of Boston became so quickly disturbing? Not with police really, but the feds.DHS etc The fact that the government can move in so quickly in large numbers and take over a large section of a major US city,Not trying to start an argument, just wondering if this bothers anyone else, it should.


Boston is a major city with a busy International Airport. The FBI, ATF, and many other law enforcement agencies have large field offices there. Large because bombings aren't the only crimes they are dealing with. Another thing is the speed of todays communications...they don't use snail mail and telegraphs anymore.

Police and fire departments answer 911 calls with increasing speed as well, and this is something i am grateful for. It's called your tax dollars and technology at work.

Armistead 04-17-13 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2042658)
I brought up the possible ramifications in an earlier post, it went to hell, but it should definitely be discussed as certain people will no doubt use this to further agenda of taking away civil liberties in the name of "security" like 9/11. Do you find how militarized that area of Boston became so quickly disturbing? Not with police really, but the feds.DHS etc The fact that the government can move in so quickly in large numbers and take over a large section of a major US city,Not trying to start an argument, just wondering if this bothers anyone else, it should.

Would you prefer the government not have that ability during terrorist acts or natural disasters?

NeonSamurai 04-17-13 09:52 AM

I'm sorry but pressure cooker bombs do not point at any suspects, as any idiot that knows anything about explosives could come up with that idea. They are basically bigger pipe bombs in practice and effect. It is also highly likely that they were used with the intent of throwing off investigators due to their common use in places like Afghanistan. As for how they were detonated, probably either timer/clock or cellphone. I would not be surprised if this was the work of one person.

MH 04-17-13 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif
I brought up the possible ramifications in an earlier post, it went to hell, but it should definitely be discussed as certain people will no doubt use this to further agenda of taking away civil liberties in the name of "security" like 9/11. Do you find how militarized that area of Boston became so quickly disturbing? Not with police really, but the feds.DHS etc The fact that the government can move in so quickly in large numbers and take over a large section of a major US city,Not trying to start an argument, just wondering if this bothers anyone else, it should.
:o
Very disturbing indeed that your government is doing efficiently the job it is supposed to do and you pay taxes for.

why all those clichés ?
I understand all this -don't trust the government and blah.... blah.....but why this.?:doh:

Oberon 04-17-13 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2042659)
It is a bit disturbing, I'll grant you that.

Would it be better if it was like Katrina? :hmmm:

Armistead 04-17-13 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 2042780)
I'm sorry but pressure cooker bombs do not point at any suspects, as any idiot that knows anything about explosives could come up with that idea. They are basically bigger pipe bombs in practice and effect. It is also highly likely that they were used with the intent of throwing off investigators due to their common use in places like Afghanistan. As for how they were detonated, probably either timer/clock or cellphone. I would not be surprised if this was the work of one person.

The more involved, usually the more mistakes. The danger of one person is a concern, much harder to find and could be planning another attack.

eddie 04-17-13 11:39 AM

Here are photo's taken by the authorities, showing pieces of the bomb.

http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2...in-device?lite

Stealhead 04-17-13 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2042797)
The more involved, usually the more mistakes. The danger of one person is a concern, much harder to find and could be planning another attack.


I think the primary reason for a lone wolf attack is the fact that no one can inform on the attacker.In the case of a group there is always the chance that someone will get cold feet and inform or that if someone gets caught they will inform on the other participants.

Judging from past attacks of a similar nature Oklahoma City or the London bombings it is clear that a handful of people can carry out a very devastating attack.

Hard to say really if it is a lone wolf that does not imply much as many extremist groups around the world promote this tactic from Islamic Extremists to White Supremacists.No mater the group they all like lone wolves due to them being more difficult to track as you said.Of course the other reason would the hope that other like minded persons would be inspired by the attacks.Of course a left or right wing group would most likely be hoping that the attack might spur a revolution.


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