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SkyBaron 04-29-13 06:20 PM

Just an idea, have you guys thought about contacting the uboat.net site's webmaster, explain the project and ask if he could provide the database used to generate the site's page? (with proper credit to the site of course)

http://www.uboat.net/about/contact.htm

He probably has a file(maybe sql or even excel) with all the date/coordinates for all patrols. I have no idea if he would be interested in providing this file but you guys could give it shot! Who knows? :)

gap 04-30-13 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyBaron (Post 2048952)
Just an idea, have you guys thought about contacting the uboat.net site's webmaster, explain the project and ask if he could provide the database used to generate the site's page? (with proper credit to the site of course)

http://www.uboat.net/about/contact.htm

He probably has a file(maybe sql or even excel) with all the date/coordinates for all patrols. I have no idea if he would be interested in providing this file but you guys could give it shot! Who knows? :)

Good idea.:up:

I never thought about getting in touch with uboat.net's webmaster, but as you are saying, this project would greatly benefit if they agree to share with us their raw data.

Keysersoze, Targor, Sartoris, Dogfish, etc, what do you guys think? Any of you wanting to volunteer and write an e-mail as suggested by SkyBaron? I think it would be better if a native English speaker did it, or at least someone writing in a better English than my one :O:

keysersoze 04-30-13 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyBaron (Post 2048952)
Just an idea, have you guys thought about contacting the uboat.net site's webmaster, explain the project and ask if he could provide the database used to generate the site's page? (with proper credit to the site of course)

http://www.uboat.net/about/contact.htm

He probably has a file(maybe sql or even excel) with all the date/coordinates for all patrols. I have no idea if he would be interested in providing this file but you guys could give it shot! Who knows? :)

Very good idea SkyBaron. Now that I think about it, I believe the creators of SH3 Commander were able to get a spreadsheet containing the names of every known historical crewmember of every U-boat from a similar website, so it's wouldn't be entirely unprecedented.

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2049133)
Good idea.:up:

I never thought about getting in touch with uboat.net's webmaster, but as you are saying, this project would greatly benefit if they agree to share with us their raw data.

Keysersoze, Targor, Sartoris, Dogfish, etc, what do you guys think? Any of you wanting to volunteer and write an e-mail as suggested by SkyBaron? I think it would be better if a native English speaker did it, or at least someone writing in a better English than my one

I'd be happy to write the e-mail. And, by the way, your English is excellent. Certainly much better than my Italian, which is non-existent :O:

SkyBaron 04-30-13 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2049133)
? I think it would be better if a native English speaker did it, or at least someone writing in a better English than my one :O:

Actually the site's owner is from Iceland :)

gap 04-30-13 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyBaron (Post 2049228)
Actually the site's owner is from Iceland :)

It seems like you are well informed. Are you native to Iceland by any chance? :D

SkyBaron 04-30-13 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2049254)
It seems like you are well informed. Are you native to Iceland by any chance? :D

No, I just read the owner's address in the about page! :)

gap 04-30-13 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyBaron (Post 2049275)
No, I just read the owner's address in the about page! :)

For a moment I hoped that YOU were the webmaster, incognito on subsim :haha:

Targor Avelany 05-01-13 01:04 PM

Sorry for a bit of silence, guys. Was on a bit of a vacation for an extended-long weekend. Now I'm back! Once I catch on reading the forum, I'll catch up on whatever is asked of me :)

gap 05-01-13 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Targor Avelany (Post 2049779)
Sorry for a bit of silence, guys. Was on a bit of a vacation for an extended-long weekend. Now I'm back! Once I catch on reading the forum, I'll catch up on whatever is asked of me :)

No worries Targor, I hope you enjoyed your vacation :up:

I have the new version of the log generator pretty much ready; in partial defence of my delay I will say that as most of you have been quite silent lately I didn't rush on it and I focused on other stuff. :O:

I can release it anytime, if you are ready to use it :salute:

keysersoze 05-01-13 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Targor Avelany (Post 2049779)
Sorry for a bit of silence, guys. Was on a bit of a vacation for an extended-long weekend. Now I'm back! Once I catch on reading the forum, I'll catch up on whatever is asked of me :)

No problem at all...real life has to come first. I hope you had a pleasant and relaxing vacation.

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2049937)
No worries Targor, I hope you enjoyed your vacation :up:

I have the new version of the log generator pretty much ready; in partial defence of my delay I will say that as most of you have been quite silent lately I didn't rush on it and I focused on other stuff. :O:

I can release it anytime, if you are ready to use it :salute:

Good to hear of your progress on the log generator :up:

There's no need to rush anything; you are involved in many projects, and it is not always possible to work on all of them. I have also taken advantage of the past several days to get some much-needed work done on my thesis (it is now very, very close to being finished :D) and have also tried to take advantage of the gorgeous weather we have been having recently.

Feel free to release the generator any time you are ready.

As SkyBaron suggested, I have also contacted Mr. Helgason, the webmaster at uboat.net to see if he has a single spreadsheet for U-boat coordinates that he would be willing to share with us. He might not feel comfortable releasing such information, but it never hurts to ask. I will post here as soon as I receive a response.

keysersoze 05-04-13 12:48 PM

Hi guys,

I received a response this morning from Mr. Helgason regarding the use of uboat.net's coordinates data. While he was very interested in and supportive of our project, the uboat.net team is unfortunately unable to provide the spreadsheet. (He mentioned they also had to turn down a similar request from the Wolves of the Atlantic modders).

He suggested using the BdU KTB available at uboatarchive.net to obtain the data more quickly and easily. I've read through portions of Dönitz' KTB in the past, and he does indeed provide daily positions for his U-boat force (most of the time). However, these positions are in the Kriegsmarine grid format, so it would be necessary to convert them to lat/long, perhaps using a site like this. Further, uboat.net's format, in which U-boat careers are already broken up into patrols, seems more accessible than reading through the many pages of the BdU KTB. What do you guys think?

gap 05-04-13 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by keysersoze (Post 2050029)
Good to hear of your progress on the log generator :up:

There's no need to rush anything; you are involved in many projects, and it is not always possible to work on all of them.

...

Feel free to release the generator any time you are ready.

It would be good if, while I am working on other stuff, people started getting accustomed with the new features of the log generator. I hope to release the new version before the next week; I onli need to give it the last touch ups :up:

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Originally Posted by keysersoze (Post 2050029)
I have also taken advantage of the past several days to get some much-needed work done on my thesis (it is now very, very close to being finished :D) and have also tried to take advantage of the gorgeous weather we have been having recently.

:sunny:

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Originally Posted by keysersoze (Post 2051321)
I received a response this morning from Mr. Helgason regarding the use of uboat.net's coordinates data.

...

He suggested using the BdU KTB available at uboatarchive.net to obtain the data more quickly and easily.

...

What do you guys think?

Imo uboat.net as main data source; KTB logs available on uboatarchive.net a secondary source, in case of dubious data or missing from uboat.net :salute:

keysersoze 05-04-13 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2051340)
It would be good if, while I am working on other stuff, people started getting accustomed with the new features of the log generator. I hope to release the new version before the next week; I onli need to give it the last touch ups :up:

:up:

Which features do you mean? I think everyone is up to speed with what has been released so far.

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2051340)
Imo uboat.net as main data source; KTB logs available on uboatarchive.net a secondary source, in case of dubious data or missing from uboat.net :salute:

Agreed :up:

gap 05-06-13 01:53 PM

U-boat logs generator v.2
 
version 2 of the U-boat logs generator ready: :up:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?7725fcao9988kc1

list of new features:
  • coordinates divided by a comma (e.g. 53.31N, 08.12E), as used by uboat.net, are now accepted.

  • new "magic number" format. It now encompasses the following information:

    doctrine / report / veterancy level / days elapsed / total patrol days / fuel left / distance to the next refitting point / ships attacked / torpedoes loaded

  • added several base port presets. You should select them as patrol start/ending locations instead of setting a coordinate. List of ports currently featured:

    Bergen
    Bordeaux
    Brest
    Brunsbüttel
    Cadiz
    Danzig
    Eckernförde
    Fedosia
    Flensburg
    Gotenhafen
    Hammerfest
    Hela
    Helgoland
    Horten
    Jakarta
    Kiel
    Kirkenes
    Kobe
    Königsberg
    Konstanza
    Kristiansand
    La Pallice
    La Spezia
    Las Palmas
    Libau
    Lorient
    Mandal
    Memel
    Messina
    Narvik
    Neustadt
    Penang
    Pillau
    Pola
    Salamis
    Sewastopol
    Singapur
    Skjomenfjord
    St. Nazaire
    Stettin
    Surabaya
    Swinemünde
    Toulon
    Travemünde
    Trondheim
    Vigo
    Warnemünde
    Wilhelmshaven


    If you meet any port not included in this list, you should report it, specifying the coordinates that you have used for it, and I will add it to the next version of the generator.

  • Added two new "current activity" selectable items:

    heading to refitting area
    refitting aborted


    You should use the heading to refitting area tag from when the boat start heading for the refitting rendez-vous to when she gets refitted. Select refitting aborted if for any reason the refitting had been cancelled. A "succesfull refitting" report will be generated at the end of a string of consecutive heading to refitting area tags, unless the next tag is refitting aborted, shadowing single unit, shadowing convoy, attacking contact, avoiding enemy warships, avoiding enemy planes, facing warship attack, facing air attack, facing combined attack, U-boat destroyed, in which case it is intended that the refitting was cancelled or postponed. The refitting aborted tag will generate a refitting aborted report, whereas the other tags won't generate any special report, but the ones previously connected with them.

    When a succesfull refitting report is generated, the fuel left counter will be updated (according to the distance to base/next refitting rendez-vous) as well as the torpedo loaded counter (up to a max of 4 torpedoes depending on the number of ships attacked since the patrol start/last successful refitting).

  • Added a Show refittings at sea on map option, to display on map the locations of the recently added tags.

  • A tonnage sunk data entry cell now replaces the previous crew ranking input. You should enter there the tonnage sunk by the
    U-boat commander, from the beginning of his career (even though in another boat) to the current patrol (current patrol included). Captured ships or ships sunk by mine shouldn't be counted. Warship tonnage and damaged ships should count as "normal" tonnage.
    See the discussion between me and keysersoze a few posts back, for further detail on this topic.

You can copy/paste your old logs in the new log generator, and make then the required adjustements, without need to re-enter all the data again (just make sure that only input cells -the white ones- are copied/pasted, or the generator won't accept the new data) :sunny:

That's all, I think :)

keysersoze 05-06-13 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2052236)
version 2 of the U-boat logs generator ready: :up:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?7725fcao9988kc1

list of new features:

.....

That's all, I think :)

Awesome gap. Thank you for your hard work :up:

I'll go through all of the currently-uploaded logs and convert them to the new format. I will also finish off the rest of U-34's patrols. After that, I think we can finally kick this project off properly.


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