Yes. The perfect alibi. :haha:

You must have poor hearing.

No, my hearing is fine. Just from what I have heard from the police report and people who actually saw what happened.

Nothing you would be interested in.

No, not at all, go back to my earlier post of people in the minds of some somehow not being pink enough to be "WHITE"
For a simple example of a flaw in your statement, if someone had a father who was half ryukyuan, half konkani and a mother who is full maori which would be the "white" half and how?(BTW that comes back to the Caucasian definition someone unsuccesfully tried earlier which your courts had ruled on)

Considering that the reason the FBI is getting involved is that the local cops aren't doing a great job, I won't take their report as gospel, but tell the board what the people thought happened.

I keep coming back to the fact that the dispatcher told Zimmerman not to go after him, and he did anyway. No matter who hit whom, Zimmerman initiated this. It is not the neighborhood watch's job to apprehend anyone. Their job is to watch and report.

We don't need to go bringing into this facts that would ruin their fantasy of the heroic gun-toting neighborhood watch member who singlehandedly took a stand against the rampaging hordes of hoodie wearing blacks.

^This.

HunterICX

There is more to the story......

A lot more and if it keeps getting out of control like it is it is going to be bad news indeed.You already have the "New Black Panther Party" putting a price on Zimmerman's head they say for him alive but I am sure that is with a wink, wink.
This is becoming the type of racily charged incident(to some extent the fault of media) that many hate groups(of varying races) have been waiting for.Even though it has yet to be prove that Zimmerman was in fact a racist or that any of his actions where fueled by a racist motive.It is assumed that Zimmerman targeted and murdered the kid because he was black.Funny that people are saying he went vigilante yet they support people doing the same to Zimmerman.

I fear that if the the case is looked over and the Feds and State Attorney agree that Zimmerman did act within the bounds of SYG some are going to really lose it .Look at the LA riots over Rodney King that guy was not the most likable person by any means and when the cops where let go all hell broke loose.This whole thing could cause national incidents even if it goes either way.

Among all the news reports and postings I have seen there is none or only a few that even hint at the idea that Martins may have been standing his gorund. Given what is known, that Zimmerman initiated a pursuit of Martins (even against the direction of a police dispatcher), was not a uniformed or properly credentialed officer of any sort, and there is a case to be made for Martins to have been in fear of his life and, in his way, apply the very intent of SYG as written into law. This is a 17 year old guy who probably has lived ion an enviorment that makes one rather cautious of other's implied intents. Consider if you were being followed down the street by someone you didn't know and whose intent you could not determine, and think of what you might do if that person got in your face...

When I first moved to Los Angeles at age 19 in 1970, I was walking down the street late at night (I worked swing shift at a bank data center), and my path on the sidewalk was suddenly blocked by a rather well-worn pickup truck with 2 men inside. One of the shouted at me to come over to the truck. I looked at them, didn't know who they were and had no intention of wanting to find out. I walked quickly past the truck, keeping my distance and decided to try to make it to an open gas station down at the end of the block. The driver of the truck pulled back out into the street, and drove down the block. pulling his truck up to again block my path. When the driver started to get out of the truck, I pulled out a knife I used to carry with me as protection. I was suddenly blinded by the glare of a pair of flashlights and saw on the edges of the light on hand holding a badge and another holding a gun, pointing right at me. I also heard a shout, "Don't move!!". Looking at the gun, I replied. "Don't worry." The passenger who had been in the truck came up to me displaying his LAPD badge and removed the knife from my hand, placing it on the hood of the truck...

After the usual pat down and check for wants and warrants (I had none; I do live arather boring lawful life), the officer who took my knife, folded ti up and handed it back to me. As he gave it to me he asked' "What are you carring this around?" I replied "In case I get approached by unknown SOBs who don't identify themselves and try to approach me." Both cops just gave me a glare, got back in their truck, and sped away...

Maybe Martins was just trying to deal, in his own self defense with an unidentified SOB...

Could very well have been the case. However there is as August said more to the story. Unfortunetly the media and public have early on made their judgments now coupled with the race baiters Jackson and Sharpton stirring up more crap. It will probably get very ugly soon.

Disgusting..

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...black-teenager

Maybe Martin was defending himself maybe he was not we do not know we can only speculate at best.The real issue for me is that Sanford PD take the word Zimmerman and supposedly one eye witness who can not confirm who started the confrontation.The problem in this case is that the local authority did a poor investigation.

In your story the cops where pretty nice to you they easily could have taken the knife away or shot you so they actually did display good control seeing you are still here to post your story.You also got lucky because certain cops will make you have a very bad day if you show them any attitude(not saying that such a thing should allow them to) I think the kid comes from a fairly good part of Dade County and he is seen wearing Holister clothing in some photos which pegs him in my mind as a bit of a preppy kid.

I am sure what they are doing at this time is looking at all the information in this case and checking and re-checking Zimmerman's claims looking to see if he tells the same story or not.The eye witness account does not prove or disprove who actually started the confrontation or who was having the self defense right.Just because you are on top of your attacker does not mean that they are the victim.They are also I am sure analyzing the voice heard crying for help to confirm if it is Zimmerman's.Just because someone has injuries and one does not does not mean that one or the other was attacked(also note that nothing has been said what injures might have been on Martins body short of the obvious did have have other injures from a hand to hand fight on his body).

There is so much unknown in the case and so much that is known being put into the line that each given media outlet wishes to portray none of use can say who was right and who was wrong maybe they both where wrong.

Thread is full of "maybe" and "should have" or "might have" but there are only 2 people who know for sure and one of them is dead. Loss of life is tragic under any circumstance and my condolences to his family.

The case has now garnered so much attention that the only conclusion to be drawn is that the facts will be discovered in time. There was a witness, there is evidence to be reviewed, it will take some time.

I just hope the chitstorms over this don't turn violent, or into riots. The people that are demanding justice sound like they want it at the end of a rope. Mob mentality is not going to be the answer here, patience is.