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Wolfehunter 07-14-10 09:32 PM

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1...ma_billboard_4

Some people really don't like there current president? May I ask why they voted for him then? :hmmm:

That billboard is hardcore... :o

TLAM Strike 07-14-10 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter (Post 1444640)
That billboard is hardcore... :o

Anyone see Rich Sanchez (of CNN) label the people on the billboard "Hitler, Obama, and Stalin". He corrected himself about a half hour later but it was an fantastic "History Fail".

I just wish I had a picture of it.

Platapus 07-15-10 06:42 PM

I got a kick out of the tag line: Radical leaders prey on the fearful and the naive.

There are pots and kettles.....

Bubblehead1980 07-15-10 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1435809)
I'll leave the discussion to americans, but I just want to make one comment. Teddy Roosevelt #1

TR's foreign policy was great, not so much the domestic.

Platapus 07-15-10 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1445502)
TR's foreign policy was great, not so much the domestic.

And he did not care all that much about Native Americans also. :nope:

August 07-15-10 11:06 PM

All that statement proves is he was a man of his times. TR still did great things domestically. The national park system for one thing.

krashkart 07-15-10 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter (Post 1444640)
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1...ma_billboard_4

Some people really don't like there current president? May I ask why they voted for him then? :hmmm:

That billboard is hardcore... :o

Heh. I'm learning not to be too surprised by anything these days. That billboard was taken down and has been replaced with a PSA.

Torvald Von Mansee 07-16-10 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1445586)
All that statement proves is he was a man of his times. TR still did great things domestically. The national park system for one thing.

Trust busting is another.

Platapus 07-16-10 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1445586)
All that statement proves is he was a man of his times. TR still did great things domestically. The national park system for one thing.


TR was definitely one for the environment. :yeah:

UnderseaLcpl 07-16-10 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1445586)
All that statement proves is he was a man of his times. TR still did great things domestically. The national park system for one thing.

I have mixed feelings about that and the rest of TR's legacy. I'd call Teddy a good statesman, for the most part, but I strongly disapprove of his interventionist foreign policy and his (imo), uneccessary strengthening of government.

Moeceefus 07-16-10 01:10 PM

Off topic a bit, Teddy was one of the few presidents I feel could kick the crap out of somebody. A strong image is important for a world leader.

Stealth Hunter 07-16-10 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Moeceefus (Post 1446093)
Off topic a bit, Teddy was one of the few presidents I feel could kick the crap out of somebody. A strong image is important for a world leader.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick.":up:

The Third Man 07-16-10 03:42 PM

I think a better measure would be to rate presidents by how they handled things which are presented to them.

Washinton because he was the first and wanted to set an example for a new nation. Not to trade King George for an king George.

Jefferson for understanding the need for exploration and expansion of a fledginlg nation hoping to make its mark in a world filled with real colonial empires.

Jackson, who, through what many would consider an iron hand, transformed a back water nation into a country of expansive power unlike the world had not seen to that point.

Lincoln, who subverted every constitutional boundary to save a nation.

T. Roosevelt, who through is inpsiration started what is now the enviromental movement.

F. D. Roosevelt who showed us that limits should be placed on the presidency and brought us through the second world war.


I'll stop there so as not to prejudice more recent administrations and illustrate the need to place presidents in their time and allow for the circumstances they were dealt.

August 07-16-10 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1446239)
I think a better measure would be to rate presidents by how they handled things which are presented to them.

Washinton because he was the first and wanted to set an example for a new nation. Not to trade King George for an king George.

Jefferson for understanding the need for exploration and expansion of a fledginlg nation hoping to make its mark in a world filled with real colonial empires.

Jackson, who, through what many would consider an iron hand, transformed a back water nation into a country of expansive power unlike the world had not seen to that point.

Lincoln, who subverted every constitutional boundary to save a nation.

T. Roosevelt, who through is inpsiration started what is now the enviromental movement.

F. D. Roosevelt who showed us that limits should be placed on the presidency and brought us through the second world war.


I'll stop there so as not to prejudice more recent administrations and illustrate the need to place presidents in their time and allow for the circumstances they were dealt.

Well said.

Sailor Steve 07-16-10 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Moeceefus (Post 1446093)
Off topic a bit, Teddy was one of the few presidents I feel could kick the crap out of somebody. A strong image is important for a world leader.

Even further off topic: He hated being called "Teddy".


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