You and me, buddy. I enjoyed U-571 for what it is. :D I got beat up in a bar the last time I said that but the bruises are almost gone now.

Let me quote Wikipedia here:
The Biuro Szyfrów, (Polish for "Cipher Bureau") was the interwar Polish General Staff's agency charged with both cryptography (the use of ciphers and codes) and cryptology (the study of ciphers and codes, particularly for the purpose of "breaking" them)...
...Beginning in December 1932, the Cipher Bureau broke the German Enigma machine cipher and, over the next nearly seven years before World War II, overcame the growing structural and operating complexities of the plugboard-equipped Enigma. The Enigma would be the main German cipher device during the Second World War. Five weeks before the outbreak of World War II, the Cipher Bureau revealed Poland's Enigma-decryption techniques and equipment to the French and British. Poland thereby made possible the western Allies' vitally important decryption of Nazi German secret communications (Ultra) during World War II.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biuro_Szyfr%C3%B3w
Thus, any Western Enigma movie makes people in Poland (well, at leat the ones who give a **** about their nation's history) laugh and/or shake their heads in disbelief.

Sensekhmet, whether Wikipedia's info is correct or not I don't know (but I don't doubt that it's true) what I meant was that the end of the film says that a British task force really did recover an Enigma machine from a German U-Boat - not necessarily that they cracked the code. From what I gather the Brits were ticked that the movie suggested the Americans got the Enigma. Well, same deal - it didn't say "based on a true story", and to their credit gave the accurate information at the end. As an American, no I don't want to see history twisted so that we "always get the glory", but like I said before I'm just watching a movie. If someone wants to make a "hollywood" feature film that actually has the right nations and/or characters doing their heroic deeds and still makes for a good movie, well hey I'm all for it and so much the better. Outside of documentaries or the History Channel getting into feature film production we're going to have to take what we're offered and hope it's enjoyable and not too far fetched. Actually, forget the latter - THC is more into truck drivers and lumberjacks now than history apparently. However...... maybe a "Battle 360" season or series of episodes on the Silent Service? That could be really good.

So whats the latest on this anyway? Did they release it yet? Considering these were uploaded two weeks ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TAokWbJfH8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyo1MkH0SN8

I'm assuming not yet.

I know it's a massive load of hollywood manure, but considering its a PTO submarine movie (the combination of those words is incredibly rare as movie selections go), i wouldn't mind seeing it. Hell, id buy the DVD. I'll put it right next Das Boot and U-571 on DVD shelf. :haha:

lol ducimus, i am visiting the Drum soon, will ask when I am over there.

I am holding out hope(perhaps foolishly) that Tom Hanks and company will produce a WWII PTO sub movie or series along the lines of Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan.With the huge budgets and talent they could put in, plus a love of history and not hollyweirding it, it would be awseome.

Yes sir, does not look bad. Some embellishment but the use of the Drums interior makes it a bit more credible. I reckon it will be like the newer Pearl movie with Ben Affleck. Either way I will buy it. However I do not have U571..that is just awful.

Everyone rips on U571.Yes I know it was not correct in many, many areas but come on, it was a decent flick.....

I could only watch it once...it was just too silly for me. First half was OK, regardless of how poorly inaccuate, when it became a Rambo movie, lost me....

U-571, great DVD for a surround sound system!

how did it become rambo ?

My assumption was they had someone go ashore for some reason or another. Considering we had one boat who's crew "sunk a train", sending a party ashore isn't out of the realm of possiblities. Err.... i guess. :shifty:

Didn't know until now, but the above sounds exactly like taken out of what I'm reading about right now... USS Crevalle rescue mission to Negros bringing home 41 americans - and with the Plan Z documents captured by guerillas on board. May 1944... under heavy attack and nearly destroyed as Walker for strange reasons decided to attack a heavily escorted convoy.

Crevalle patrol log: http://issuu.com/hnsa/docs/ss-291_cr...part1?mode=a_p (page 168)

Plan Z: http://www.archives.gov/publications.../z-plan-1.html

Just a (late) thought.

I think it is more Matthew Mcwhatever his name. He is awful.

It's been a while since I heard anything of the Drum documentary or the Seaviper movie. I'd like to have new info for the Drum's website.

No Way!
 

No way man, I've been working with this movie for the past two years and it's a great film.

New trailer on IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi303630105/

it's gonna be a great one.