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DURUK 05-22-07 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by U-Bones
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Originally Posted by DURUK
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For the record, he did no such thing. Your speculation here, and especially your unfounded conclusion, is grossly inappropriate and serves no purpose.

Some people know what is going on. If you do not, it does not involve you. Think of it as a family spat between Uncle Fred and Aunt Mavis, and stay out of it.

Thank you.

I'm not eager to come upon any unfounded conclusions and i certainly do not think that ducimus might have "stolen" (if that'd be the right word) anything from anyone..

but if some people here keep the knowladge for themselves (or maybe just pretend to have the knowledge) eventually such conclusions will they face..

yes, i might be quite new in subsim and may not be able to comprehend all these politics going on but i know that i liked the mods of this guy and consequently also liked himself.. and like all the other bunch of people here using his mods i'm also sorry to hear that he's leaving and i feel it as my right to know clearly the matter to have an objective view.

And NO! I'll not stay out of it because it involves me on the basis i've told above.. and if some people knows what is going on then i ask to be informed (isnt the aim of this forum to share information afterall)

Then you simply contribute to the chaos with your selfish desire to be "informed" or "objective". Like you can fix it or be indignant or some other noble thing... please.

If he wanted to disclose his reasons further, that would have been his choice. Given that he did not, move on.

I am asking once more that this festering sore be left alone and allowed to scab over. Those of us who have been here a while are tired of it.

And for the record, I do not know the full story, nor do I want to. Also for the record, I like Ducimus and hate to see him leave. Also for the record, I like some of the people he has issues with. Also for the record, more than one modder has left and come back after some rest.

There is enough drama without piling on more. Let's see how it plays out without poisoning the well any further shall we ?

BTW, he released Trigger Maru 1.2 over at the other place.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/2311092165

Contribution to chaos can not be better simulated than such a patronizing manner being shown here. I doubt that anyone really needs this. What most of the people have in common here is a disturbance that good modders are being lost one by one. People have the right to ask questions with meaning no offence and if those who have been here for a while are tired enough for not being able to give answers without offence can just ignore and step aside. I kindly ask you to do the same.

U-Bones 05-22-07 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DURUK
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Originally Posted by U-Bones
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Originally Posted by DURUK
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Originally Posted by U-Bones
For the record, he did no such thing. Your speculation here, and especially your unfounded conclusion, is grossly inappropriate and serves no purpose.

Some people know what is going on. If you do not, it does not involve you. Think of it as a family spat between Uncle Fred and Aunt Mavis, and stay out of it.

Thank you.

I'm not eager to come upon any unfounded conclusions and i certainly do not think that ducimus might have "stolen" (if that'd be the right word) anything from anyone..

but if some people here keep the knowladge for themselves (or maybe just pretend to have the knowledge) eventually such conclusions will they face..

yes, i might be quite new in subsim and may not be able to comprehend all these politics going on but i know that i liked the mods of this guy and consequently also liked himself.. and like all the other bunch of people here using his mods i'm also sorry to hear that he's leaving and i feel it as my right to know clearly the matter to have an objective view.

And NO! I'll not stay out of it because it involves me on the basis i've told above.. and if some people knows what is going on then i ask to be informed (isnt the aim of this forum to share information afterall)

Then you simply contribute to the chaos with your selfish desire to be "informed" or "objective". Like you can fix it or be indignant or some other noble thing... please.

If he wanted to disclose his reasons further, that would have been his choice. Given that he did not, move on.

I am asking once more that this festering sore be left alone and allowed to scab over. Those of us who have been here a while are tired of it.

And for the record, I do not know the full story, nor do I want to. Also for the record, I like Ducimus and hate to see him leave. Also for the record, I like some of the people he has issues with. Also for the record, more than one modder has left and come back after some rest.

There is enough drama without piling on more. Let's see how it plays out without poisoning the well any further shall we ?

BTW, he released Trigger Maru 1.2 over at the other place.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/2311092165

Contribution to chaos can not be better simulated than such a patronizing manner being shown here. I doubt that anyone really needs this. What most of the people have in common here is a disturbance that good modders are being lost one by one. People have the right to ask questions with meaning no offence and if those who have been here for a while are tired enough for not being able to give answers without offence can just ignore and step aside. I kindly ask you to do the same.

My answers were requests for self restraint, and contained no offense, at least initially, and never without good intentions.

"...can just ignore and step aside. I kindly ask you to do the same."

You got it, I'm finished for now. Too bad you can't follow your own advice.

Dig away, but don't cry if it bleeds.

Laffertytig 05-22-07 12:10 PM

hey u-bones why u getin so upset about this? none of these queries were directed at u and since u readily admit u know NOTHING about the situation then maybe u would be better not responding or if u cant restrain yourself not even looking at this thread!

i have yet to buy this game as im waitin to see what happens with patch 1.3 thats if there is one. although there are lots of minor mods there are only two major ones, this one and RFB. as beery just said both offer different styles of play and im only showing concern that it appears we've lost one of the modmakers to "unknown" reasons. ive been on these forums since before SH2 was released and am still amazed at how serious and bitchy some of these mod dudes can be (and that means noone in particular:roll: ).

but hey thats life, put it this way, if u were in a bar havin a drink with friends and someone disagreed with u would u instantly leave the bar without givin a reason? maybe u would who knows but id find that strange, just as i find this strange.

so just calm down man:up:

Ducimus 05-22-07 12:12 PM

ENOUGH!

Some morbid curiousity made me click here, and oh well, i guess i should have expected rampant speculation. Then again, im not even sure why i should care.


I did not steal anything from GWX. My reasons for leaving are many, but none of them involve any theivery from GWX. The straw that broke the proverial camels back was removed from the ethics thread, so you can stop looking. I will not state my reasons, because it will only stoke a fire.

So yes, im serious about it this time. Otherwise i woudlnt have offered my modpack up for grabs. Its my hope that somebody unaffiliated takes the ball and runs with it. If i continue to mod, it will not be on this forum. I have to admit ill miss alot of the community here, but so long as certain aspects of this community remain, there will always be some sort of strife. I, was, and probably still am, a part of those aspects that create the strife on this forum, just by my very existance here. My parting thought: Don't allow yourself to be manipulated by others, and never take sides.

Oh yes, Tmaru 1.2
http://files.filefront.com//;7573130;/

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/release/R...Maru_ver1-2.7z

Good luck, and good hunting. Im off to find a new hobby for awhile. Ive got everything installed on my system from World of warcraft, to Doom3, to Diablo 2, to rome TW, something will grab my attention. At the least i have a new book to read, "silent running" by James calvert. I was looking for ned beach novels, but Borders didnt have any. Guess i should have gone to Barnes and Nobels.

Onkel Neal 05-22-07 12:39 PM

It's too bad there is always this petty friction between mod teams, it really reflects badly on all involved. Each side thinks they are right, and only defending themselves. They don't like it when a forum moderator attempts to keep them in line but they are the first to complain the moderator is not doing anything to check the other guy's remarks. It's impossible to referee this situation, and many good men have checked out: Der Teddy Bar, Observer, nvDrifter, and now Mr. SH4 Mod himself, Ducimus.

I wonder where the professionalism of mod teams like Pacific Aces went?

Yeah, I know, it's the other guy's fault...

I wish you success, Ducimus, I've enjoyed talking with you. You have my personal invitation to return any time you wish, no explanations needed. There will always be people here to welcome you. :yep:

Neal

U-Bones 05-22-07 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Laffertytig
hey u-bones why u getin so upset about this? none of these queries were directed at u and since u readily admit u know NOTHING about the situation then maybe u would be better not responding or if u cant restrain yourself not even looking at this thread!
so just calm down man:up:

I know a bit more than nothing, and never said otherwise. Read more carefully ? Quote more accurately ? OK, thanks.

And like you, I read and comment on whatever I like. I simply asked for restraint and was rejected. I'm dead calm, before and after.

Enjoy your game.

U-Bones 05-22-07 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
There will always be people here to welcome you. :yep:

Neal

Yeah, here is one.

ReallyDedPoet 05-22-07 12:49 PM

Here is another:up:

RDP

BellJack95 05-22-07 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by U-Bones
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
There will always be people here to welcome you. :yep:

Neal

Yeah, here is one.


Ducimus - good luck and good hunting. Thank you for the Trigger Maru mod (and its forerunner Flavored To Taste - FTT). It has made my submarine career in the Pacific much better!

And just like in the ol' Motel 6 commericals....I am sure the "light will be left on for you"....except during air raid alerts or enemy naval activity! Cheers! :D

jerryt 05-22-07 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by U-Bones
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
There will always be people here to welcome you. :yep:

Neal

Yeah, here is one.

Add one more. :up: Thanks man!

MaxenThor 05-22-07 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by U-Bones
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
There will always be people here to welcome you. :yep:

Neal

Yeah, here is one.

And another one here. We'll miss you.:yep:

Laffertytig 05-22-07 03:35 PM

fair comment ducimus, its a shame your shuttin up shop cos your mod was shapin up very nicely indeed. Neal listed a pretty impressive list of modding talent there without guys like u and them SH4 will die a slow death. u seemed very commited and enthused about your mod up until a few days ago so its disapointing that you're letin whatever these guys said to get to u but thats your call i guess

hopefully you will change your mind at some point

OlegM 05-22-07 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus
I did not steal anything from GWX. My reasons for leaving are many, but none of them involve any theivery from GWX. The straw that broke the proverial camels back was removed from the ethics thread, so you can stop looking. I will not state my reasons, because it will only stoke a fire.

You're acting freaking childish that's all. You may be a great modder - and I personally always speak the best about your work - but part of you acts like a spoilt 5 year old kid. And you're not alone.

There I said it - I am sure many here share my opinion but are too politically correct to actually say it :cool:

peckens 05-22-07 04:58 PM

Am I missing something here on installing this. I put the mod in the MODS folder and then activate it. After that when I start a new carreer I have no reference telling me that the mod is working. Everyone says that the pear harbor start date is dec 8, I am starting on dec 10, there is still a crosshair on the binoculars, the missions seem to be exactly the same as stock, controls are all the same such as "B" is not working as a hotkey for battlestations, etc. Everything seems to still be stock. What am I doing wrong?

Florida Sailor 05-22-07 05:01 PM

You're acting freaking childish that's all. You may be a great modder - and I personally always speak the best about your work - but part of you acts like a spoilt 5 year old kid. And you're not alone.

There I said it - I am sure many here share my opinion but are too politically correct to actually say it :cool:[/quote]

Sorry sir, but you are out of line and I have to call you on this one. This guy has done for FREE what we all paid UBI $50.00+ to do. Out of a sense of responsibility, well deserved pride, or the goodness of his heart he has given us a playable game that I am rapidly falling in love with. It is all due to his hard work and the sacirfice of his family time.

Ducimus can stay, go, whatever and we have no right to criticize his choices. Our chioce should be, and mine certainly is, is to thank him for his efforts and wish him well.


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