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Not like you Dargo!!
Maybe he is just quoting what was done! :hmmm:

A friend and former politician who was born in Syria wrote this on his wall.

"The Saudi journalist, Rashed al-Qahtani, writes in the Saudi online media ALAPH:
“Hamas’ brutal violence against the Palestinians in Gaza is a crime against humanity.”
Hamas rules Gaza with great brutality. There is no “Free Palestine” in Gaza.
What does the Palestine-Hamas-Danish lobby say about that?
Why are al-Qahtani and other Arab/Palestinian Hamas critics never quoted or interviewed by Danish media?
Is it because of. Lack of language skills? Laziness? Or one-sidedness?
PS. Hats off to the many Palestinians in Gaza who are demonstrating against the terrorist organization Hamas."

Markus

Hundreds join Gaza's largest anti-Hamas protest since war began

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Hundreds of people have taken part in the largest anti-Hamas protest in Gaza since the war with Israel began, taking to the streets to demand the group step down from power.

Masked Hamas militants, some armed with guns and others carrying batons, intervened and forcibly dispersed the protesters, assaulting several of them.

Videos shared widely on social media by activists typically critical of Hamas showed young men marching in the streets of Beit Lahia, northern Gaza on Tuesday, chanting "out, out, out, Hamas out".

Hamas has not commented directly on the protest, but in a statement on Wednesday it blamed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for resuming the war.

Pro-Hamas supporters downplayed the significance of the protests and accused the participants of being traitors.

The protests in northern Gaza came a day after Islamic Jihad gunmen launched rockets at Israel, prompting an Israeli decision to evacuate large parts of Beit Lahia, which sparked public anger in the area.

Israel has resumed its military campaign in Gaza following nearly two months of ceasefire, blaming Hamas for rejecting a new US proposal to extend the truce. Hamas, in turn, has accused Israel of abandoning the original deal agreed in January.

Hundreds of Palestinians have been killed and thousands displaced since Israeli military operations resumed with air strikes on 18 March.

One of the protesters, Beit Lahia resident Mohammed Diab, had his home destroyed in the war and lost his brother in an Israeli airstrike a year ago.

"We refuse to die for anyone, for any party's agenda or the interests of foreign states," he said.

"Hamas must step down and listen to the voice of the grieving, the voice that rises from beneath the rubble - it is the most truthful voice."

Footage from the town also showed protesters shouting "down with Hamas rule, down with the Muslim Brotherhood rule".

Hamas has been the sole ruler in Gaza since 2007, after winning Palestinian elections a year prior and then violently ousting rivals.

Open criticism of Hamas has grown in Gaza since war began, both on the streets and online, though there are still those that are fiercely loyal and it is hard to accurately gauge how far support for the group has shifted.

There was opposition to Hamas long before the war, though much of it remained hidden for fear of reprisals.

Mohammed Al-Najjar, from Gaza, posted on his Facebook: "Excuse me, but what exactly is Hamas betting on? They're betting on our blood, blood that the whole world sees as just numbers.

"Even Hamas counts us as numbers. Step down and let us tend to our wounds."

The war in Gaza was triggered by Hamas's attack on Israel on 7 October 2023, during which around 1,200 people, mainly civilians, were killed and 251 others taken hostage.

Israel responded to the attack with a military offensive in Gaza to destroy Hamas, which has killed more than 50,000 Palestinians, the Hamas-run health ministry said.

Most of Gaza's 2.1 million population has also been displaced, many of them several times.

An estimated 70% of buildings have been damaged or destroyed in Gaza, healthcare, water and sanitation systems have collapsed and there are shortages of food, fuel, medicine and shelter.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g71lk09npo

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2950607)

Some food for thought there Markus.

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Originally Posted by MaDef (Post 2950484)

Makes sense strategically, Hamas is so imbedded in Gaza you can't separate the innocent from the guilty. So you force everyone out and raze the place. Makes sense to me.

This^ is related to...

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2950495)

Die Juden waren dafür verantwortlich, Neger ins Rheinland zu bringen, mit dem Ziel, die weiße Ethnie, die sie hassen, zu bastardisieren und so ihr kulturelles und politisches Niveau zu senken, damit die Juden dominieren können.

If it makes sense to raze the place with collateral damage people included then yes I make sense to quote (Meinem Kampf) Hitler. The result is the same thinking of an Endlösung of the crisis.

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2950495)

You're a real piece of work. :nope:

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2950616)

This^ is related to...If it makes sense to raze the place with collateral damage people included then yes I make sense to quote (Meinem Kampf) Hitler. The result is the same thinking of an Endlösung of the crisis.

I have hard to believe that the government in Israel are working on an endlösung against Gaza and Lebanon.

Markus

Did it bring Israel victory? I don't think so. Did it create a better political reality? The tragedy of Israel's public security debate is that Israel don't realize that they face a frustrating situation in which they win every battle, but lose the war. On the other hand, it's a brutal occupation force, similar to the Germans in World War ll. Similar, not identical. And I'm not talking about their behaviour toward the Jews. That was exceptional, with its own particular characteristics. I mean, how they acted to the Poles, the Belgians, the Dutch... To all of them... The Czechs. It's a very negative trait that Israel acquired, to be... Israel became cruel, to themselves as well, but mainly to the occupied population, using the excuse of the war against terror.

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Originally Posted by Clausewitz

Victory is simply the creation of a better political reality.

That's victory. Victory doesn't dictate that Israel have to conquer, annihilate Gaza or Ramallah or Nablus or Hebron.

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2950616)

In other words you have no cogent alternative, other than equating my opinion with being a Nazi. Kudos to you. Tell you what, when you figure out how to make fighting a war all nice and neat with no collateral damage or destruction you come back and post it, and I'll personally nominate you for a Nobel peace prize. :rolleyes:

Hamas claims growing Gaza protests against its rule actually aimed at Israel :)

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Senior Hamas official Basem Naim told the Qatari channel Al-Araby that “demonstrations are expected from people facing extermination, against war and destruction.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-...med-at-israel/

What would this coward above actually know? he is n't even in Gaza :o

The many ways Israeli settlers steal Palestinian homes :D

On Monday, Ghassan Abdel Basset and his family left their home in the occupied West Bank to visit a relative. Later that evening, their neighbours informed them that Israeli settlers had invaded their home. Ghassan hurried back to confront the settlers, but the Israeli army intervened to block him and his family from getting back to their house. The settlers claimed they bought the home, but the Abdel Basset family never put it up for sale. "The settlers claim they bought the house from someone, but nobody gave this person the legal right to sell our house,” Ghassan told Al Jazeera.

Accelerated expulsion

Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territory IS ILLEGAL UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW. As an occupier, Israel is not allowed to transfer its citizens into occupied territory or enforce its national laws there. However, more than 750,000 Israeli settlers live in illegal settlements in the West Bank, and many have forged property deeds to provide a veneer of legality to confiscate Palestinian homes. This is one of several strategies that state-backed settlers use to uproot Palestinians.

Settlers, backed by the Israeli state, also vandalise homes, set up outposts, attack farmers, destroy crops and steal livestock under the supervision of the Israeli army. On top of that, 14 illegal outposts have been erected on land that Palestinian farmers, herders and Bedouins used to live on.

The other aspect is that Trump is surrounded by people who are not just backers of Israel but of "Greater Israel". That means they believe the land biblically belongs exclusively to Israelis. After Trump was inaugurated on January 20, he quickly signed an executive order to lift sanctions on settlers. The next day, settler attacks surged across the West Bank.

Leith, a Palestinian farmer said: Nobody cares about human rights. Human rights is just one big lie, Animals have more rights than us! :timeout:

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2...estinian-homes

Wanted to know more about these settles and wiki have a detailed description of this topic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

Do I support this !? Not exactly I say it is wrong to take over an another owners house.

Markus