Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith (Post 1716838)

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The water meshes are rendered first (water is divided into what I call patches) ...

Originally Posted by TDW/RB

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while at the same time setting Z buffer entries as it does. Next reflections on the water are rendered. Next sky/atmosphere is rendered (Z write enable disabled). Next units and terrain are rendered (Z write enable restored and Z buffer tests are performed while rendering. If Z buffer entry has already been set by water then pixel is discarded - thus why no transparent water). Contrast this with SH5: SH5 renders everything first then renders water.

I will say that SH3 uses an ingenious system ... (culling, alpha-blending, Z-write enable), Streams set, Shaders set, etc.
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One thing SH3 does well is frustrum testing/culling/clipping before trying to render anything.
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Originally Posted by Wolfstriked (Post 1717278)

Did some more work to the waves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgIFTNHMie0

Originally Posted by ETsd4 (Post 1718938)

What wind-force/wave-height is this vid representing?
The waves look nice. It looks like wind-force 7.

Real wind-force 6-7 vid =>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLmQZkkpss0

Originally Posted by ETsd4 (Post 1718938)

What wind-force/wave-height is this vid representing?
The waves look nice. It looks like wind-force 7.

Real wind-force 6-7 vid =>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLmQZkkpss0

Originally Posted by Wolfstriked (Post 1717037)

Feedback is most welcome guys.:O:

The way I want my game is a personal thing and I know many people have different ideas as to what is realistic.What I will do instead is just post here my findings and you guys can tweak it to fit your way.

I started tweaking with cutting the horsepower in half and upping the L/R drag from .3 to .75....ala Thompsen's ideas.Then the issues started.....

Horsepower is cut in half giving a much nicer acceleration and drag is increased removing the excessive(IMO)rocking back and forth to the Uboats.Thing is that now with higher drag and less HP the boats slow down too much in turns.This means that the TypeIIA just went from 2:05secs to 3:25secs.Easily remedied by a large increase to rudder drag but that has negative aspect of making the initial turn of the Uboat seem like a speed boat.I am going for turn speeds listed below

TypeIIA=2:10....initial=2:05
TypeVII=3:00....initial=2:20
TypeIX=4:00.....initial=2:43

So I dropped down the COG from 1.95 to 0.25 and was able to bring the L/R drag down to comfortable 0.25.Any lower drop of the Left and right drag and you get a weird bug where the boat will not go where you set it to heading wise.Harrrrrd nut to crack:damn::har:This allows a lower rudder drag setting for a slower initial turn and brings the turn time of the IIA down to 2:10.I also put the L/R drag for surfaced and submerged equal....if you do not then the boat jerks when it dives into water.

UD drag setting controls the way the boat rides over the water.This is a hard one because it goes for all wave sizes.Small number makes small waves having the boats rock and jump up and down....fixed by higher setting but then the boat looks off on big waves .I go for .25(TypeII) .50(VII) and .75(IX).This works very well and tweaking it up or down just causes issues at different wave heights.

Then the submerged UD drag setting.I put to 0.0 as it allows the TypeIIA to drop into water and then rise rapidly.If you put higher it causes the boats to get stuck in the water and slowly rise as if in mud.Can be tweaked but again its just this one setting for all wave heights.

FR_ratio....this is how the boat travels over a wave so that a more forward setting drops the nose quick while a more rearward settings....doesn't:stare:

The difference in mass of surfaced displacement to submerged displacement....this is the factor that shows the buoyancy of the boat ON the water surface.The difference of the initial mass compared to the surfaced is what determines the buoyancy while submerged.

What else:hmmm:The manBT_flood_speed determines how fast the boat dives.

Dive plane drag settings....hard to tweak because I noticed that by going lower on the big boats(as it should be)causes a smaller dive angle to occur sadly.:cry:

I also changed the scene.dat by removing the 4 wind speed stages.I use only two settings with 0 wind and second at 15mph wind speed.This way the waves slowly get bigger as wind speed increases .In game at stock the waves go from 0.05 to 0.14 at 4mph wind.This makes the slow wind speed waves bigger than they should be.Same with the say 12mph waves being very close in size to 15 etc.With just two stages the waves get gradually bigger as wind speeds pick up.

Largewavesarmonics=the amount of large waves that will appear.Setting it to 0 makes for some truly magnificent seas but the SH3 boats look way off seeming to get stuck on the sides of them.The Largewavescoef=a way to get larger or smaller Largewavesarmonics since there is no way to add say 1.5 Largewavesarmonics.Instead you would do Largewavesarmonics=2 and Largewavescoef=0.5

Originally Posted by postalbyke (Post 1719195)

So is this what you did to make the video look the way it did? Cause I was thinking about jumpering this into my personal mod for peri positions and interiors...

Originally Posted by Wolfstriked (Post 1717037)

Feedback is most welcome guys.:O:

The way I want my game is a personal thing and I know many people have different ideas as to what is realistic.What I will do instead is just post here my findings and you guys can tweak it to fit your way.

I started tweaking with cutting the horsepower in half and upping the L/R drag from .3 to .75....ala Thompsen's ideas.Then the issues started.....

Horsepower is cut in half giving a much nicer acceleration and drag is increased removing the excessive(IMO)rocking back and forth to the Uboats.Thing is that now with higher drag and less HP the boats slow down too much in turns.This means that the TypeIIA just went from 2:05secs to 3:25secs.Easily remedied by a large increase to rudder drag but that has negative aspect of making the initial turn of the Uboat seem like a speed boat.I am going for turn speeds listed below

TypeIIA=2:10....initial=2:05
TypeVII=3:00....initial=2:20
TypeIX=4:00.....initial=2:43

So I dropped down the COG from 1.95 to 0.25 and was able to bring the L/R drag down to comfortable 0.25.Any lower drop of the Left and right drag and you get a weird bug where the boat will not go where you set it to heading wise.Harrrrrd nut to crack:damn::har:This allows a lower rudder drag setting for a slower initial turn and brings the turn time of the IIA down to 2:10.I also put the L/R drag for surfaced and submerged equal....if you do not then the boat jerks when it dives into water.

UD drag setting controls the way the boat rides over the water.This is a hard one because it goes for all wave sizes.Small number makes small waves having the boats rock and jump up and down....fixed by higher setting but then the boat looks off on big waves .I go for .25(TypeII) .50(VII) and .75(IX).This works very well and tweaking it up or down just causes issues at different wave heights.

Then the submerged UD drag setting.I put to 0.0 as it allows the TypeIIA to drop into water and then rise rapidly.If you put higher it causes the boats to get stuck in the water and slowly rise as if in mud.Can be tweaked but again its just this one setting for all wave heights.

FR_ratio....this is how the boat travels over a wave so that a more forward setting drops the nose quick while a more rearward settings....doesn't:stare:

The difference in mass of surfaced displacement to submerged displacement....this is the factor that shows the buoyancy of the boat ON the water surface.The difference of the initial mass compared to the surfaced is what determines the buoyancy while submerged.

What else:hmmm:The manBT_flood_speed determines how fast the boat dives.

Dive plane drag settings....hard to tweak because I noticed that by going lower on the big boats(as it should be)causes a smaller dive angle to occur sadly.:cry:

I also changed the scene.dat by removing the 4 wind speed stages.I use only two settings with 0 wind and second at 15mph wind speed.This way the waves slowly get bigger as wind speed increases .In game at stock the waves go from 0.05 to 0.14 at 4mph wind.This makes the slow wind speed waves bigger than they should be.Same with the say 12mph waves being very close in size to 15 etc.With just two stages the waves get gradually bigger as wind speeds pick up.

Largewavesarmonics=the amount of large waves that will appear.Setting it to 0 makes for some truly magnificent seas but the SH3 boats look way off seeming to get stuck on the sides of them.The Largewavescoef=a way to get larger or smaller Largewavesarmonics since there is no way to add say 1.5 Largewavesarmonics.Instead you would do Largewavesarmonics=2 and Largewavescoef=0.5

Originally Posted by Wolfstriked (Post 1719968)

$500.00 dollars for a video card is totally nuts!!

Originally Posted by Fubar2Niner (Post 1720054)

.....It's called progress mate, and boy how we all suffer. You replace the vid card to find out the CPU has been upgraded, which means a new mobo, leading to perhaps more/different RAM. A bottomless pocket would be nice, however we do what we can.....

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner