For this he should stand trial for violating the human rights in Ukraine together with those soldier who have done the same.

Should he be eliminated before this I will not cry over the lost...

Markus

Where are the Uboats when you need them...

Uboats

I'm awaiting the news where I'm getting told that Putin has ordered the uboat fleet from Murmansk to set sail for the Atlantic.

I also await news about increase of his Baltic fleet.

Forgot something.
When you hear or read about this-Putin gives those order-then we may get nervous

Markus

There are russian vessels near Odessa as they shelled and sank a vessel and damaged another. Although my software does not show them, there are some out there that can even tell you what that sailor threw over the stern :salute:

Can anyone of you give me an answer to this problem.

It's about neonazisme in Ukraine.

It's Russian propaganda when they say neonazisme is a problem in Ukraine
While others say it is a problem Russia is correct here.

I don't know what's up and down in this.

Markus

This war is fought with many tools, and formt eh past years of it beign waged, Russia politiclaly has benefitted tremeodusly, namely its eleiotes at the top. This monstrosu states gets away with assassinating its cirtics even on other coutnry'S soil. It manages ot lull the West into helpless weakness since decades. I bites off chunks of land here and there, in Georgia, Ukraine, it commits atrocities and war crimes in Syria, annihilates Grozny and Chechnya and nobody dares to get in its way, even speaks psoitvely about it. Russophile base attitudes dominated Western perception of Russia auntil recently. The elites that Putin also depend on since they manage his stolen wealth, became even richer, and are accepted guest in western saloons. We dleiver them high tech, knowhow, even military equipment, and goods the elite sneed to keep the masses peaceful and sufficnetly satisfied to stay what they always have been in Russia: servile, and obedient. The wets did noit react to the Raising Russian threats to the post-WW2 order.

I would say those in command in Russia have benefitted TREMENDOUSLY. And we in the West have made complete fools of ourselves with our "Russenkitsch" . We voluntarily allowed to march all by ourselves into helpelessness and dependencies - and really worrying degrees of defencelessness.

The Russian do thi since deacdes. The Westgerman peacemovement we now for sure now has sicne always been infiltrated and controlled by the KGB. And look what spendid ammounts of anti-Americans it has spilled especially, in Germany! Our education sector and mainstream media are extremely left-oriented, too.

Then the Russian interfering with the Americna elections, and successfully mining it with a Trump.The effects on the US politlical system are desastrous, its as if large parts of the population have inhaled a poisonous gas that caused irreverisble brain damage. Russia meddling with German politics, and there is its and liason with the AfD. Its shady role in the Brexit media campaign.

I always said Putin plays the big game masteruflly, he is a brilliant tactician. Until he now grew old, some say: ill. Still, he is a monster. Nevertheless he is briliant in his malicious way of playing, and that skill is what gives us very big headaches and threatens to set the world ablaze, doesn't it.

We must do what is needed to hinder him playing out his next moves he alrready has annoucned and decided for. We must end this scheme "Putin acts, the world reacts". Now. In the Ukraine.

Its just 1200km from my position to where the fighitng starts, and the dying and destruction. Thats the distance New York - Chicaco by air, roughly. And we , NATO act as if we were just sitting on the fence, watching a show rodeo? While we even pay Putin daily fees for runnig the war, still we do that...???

I am not willing to agree with this atittude. Its the attitude that let the massacre at Srebrenica happen. That did not noticably react to the invasion of the Crimea. That just lamented a bit about the two wars in Chechnya and the annihilation of Grozny. That did not end relations with Russia while they were clusterbombing and genociding civilians in Aleppo and across Syria - we even continued to coordinate oursleves with them.

Our role in all these events has no substance and no honesty and no honour in it. Putin did what eh did. We always tolerated it and deliberately decided to not confront him over it.

Imagine the lessons he las learned from that. And he is right with them.

Now we explicitly tell him that whatever he does in the ukraine, we will not confront him seriously, with violence to end his violence.

There is only one lesson he can learned from that.

Card Blanche, that is. The Ukrainians maybe can coivneitonally defeta the Russians. Onxy then to see their state being annihlated by use of nuclear wepaons.

Will we be a passive audience to that massacre show, or will we start to do something about that?

Putin will not end with the Ukraine, if he lives long enough.

Just read Skybirds in-deep analysis to u crank's comment.

How much is he on the spot here ? I fear that he hit the nail which have made me nervous.

Markus

Its not worth it. What will be, will be. What is inevitable anyway, is useless to be nervous about.

That we do what we can do, that is what counts. So far we don't. That does not amke me nervous so much, but furious.

More could not be expected of anyone: that he does what he can do, for what is beyond his reach is beyond his control. Thats true for individuals. And for countries.

My Dad however is a bit down. He was one year old when his family got driven out by the Russians and Czechoslovaks, but in the years the family were refugees in Rostock, later in Münster, he was a young boy and then schoolboy and "teenager" (by age, not by schooling) - and that he remembers. He cried a lot the past days over the fate of the many people that need to flee now. My uncle is different there, he is furious, he is three years older than my father.

The second attempt to evacuate the population at Mariupol has been stopped again. Again the Russians are shelling the escape route. Yesterday they claimed the ukrainains were not using it. I wonder what their stinking foul and cynical excuse today will be.


Zelensky says on Twitter a multiple missile attack has completely destroyed the civilian airport at Kyiv.

The world did not begin last week. The major players in orchestrating this disaster are strangely silent. The United States under Barrack Obama blatantly meddled in the affairs of another country and helped orchestrate the fall of a democratically elected leader Viktor Yanukovych. There is no excuse for such behavior. Yes Yanukovych was corrupt and yes he wanted to aligned Ukraine with Russia. In hindsight that seems like a better option than what we have right now or God forbid what we might get.

Are we sacrificing Ukraine for the price of world peace ?

Are we sending just enough weapons to Ukraine so they can haul the invaders some month ?

Edit
The comment was only a thought I had...then about a minute ago I read this Danish article

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp

End edit

Markus

I think the 'system' loves war, and here in the US the old political establishment is full of Dems and Rep that push American expansion using war. The goal is to push our systems of values and economics, and of course economic resources. We don't care the amount of human suffering we cause, because we believe other kingdoms existing and expanding will do the same and democracy/capitalism is a much better option than what they have to offer.
I don't know if we really wanted this war, in policy we certainly opened the door to it and laid out the welcome mat. Strange, Biden said he wouldn't arm Ukraine before this because it might provoke Putin, while saying out the other end of his mouth, it was certain Russia would invade. So now we arm them 'some' at greater risk and gonna put Russia through a slow meatgrinder, at the expense of the Ukraine people of course. With mass sanctions it certainly is gonna wreck Russia and that benefits NATO, but at the risk of starting WW3 and nukes flying. The West really doesn't feel it will go that far with Putin and will eventually give him some way out after NATO resets the area's economics and politics to its favor. Is that the right thing to do considering China, IDK.