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Oberon 05-08-15 05:33 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq7Vj3GMd1M

Fubar2Niner 05-08-15 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2312367)

My sentiments exactly !!

Jimbuna 05-08-15 06:09 AM

As I previously posted on the Tories thread:

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Call it hindsight but I'm honestly not surprised at the outcome but can't say as much for the winning margin.

Actually received my annual Labour membership card yesterday (great timing) and an email today asking me if I wanted to join the party

I emailed them back asking what they had done with over twenty years of my membership subscriptions

STEED 05-08-15 06:14 AM

Ed Miliband has stepped down, now lets see a new stronger better Labour party that must stop the Tories dead in 2020.

STEED 05-08-15 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2312375)
I emailed them back asking what they had done with over twenty years of my membership subscriptions

Spent it, it was at the bottom of that famous note. :)

Joking aside I hope they give you a proper answer.

Jimbuna 05-08-15 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2312380)
Spent it, it was at the bottom of that famous note. :)

Joking aside I hope they give you a proper answer.

If not they'll be a member short come a years time :yep:

STEED 05-08-15 07:42 AM

Lets see if this will raise BossMark's spirits..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXex5Z4Kdbs

STEED 05-08-15 08:11 AM

Early days yet but I checked the council results and the first 32 are in out of 279 and its showing LibDems and Independents taking the biggest knocking and UKIP & Conservatives doing the best.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2...sults/councils

Bilge_Rat 05-08-15 08:29 AM

I was looking over the results on the BBC site. The vote percentage for the Tories and Labour barely budged and actually went up more for Labour.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election/2015/results

What made the difference was the collapse of Lib-Dem votes and rise of UKIP votes which presumably would have allowed many Tory candidates to slip into first place even if their vote total did not change from 2010.

the vagaries of the first-past-the-post system.

UKIP got more vote ( 3,875, 409) than SNP and Lib-Dems combined ( 1,454,436 + 2,399,866 = 3,854,302) which gave them all of 1 seat vs 64 for SNP/Lib-Dem.

MGR1 05-08-15 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 2312413)
UKIP got more vote ( 3,875, 409) than SNP and Lib-Dems combined ( 1,454,436 + 2,399,866 = 3,854,302) which gave them all of 1 seat vs 64 for SNP/Lib-Dem.

The main problem that UKIP face is the same as the SDP back in the 80's. Lots of votes nationwide, but not concentrated enough to get seats under FPTP.

From a Scottish perspective, it will be very interesting to see what happens next year with the Scottish Parliament elections. No doubt the SNP will win a majority again, but who will be the biggest opposition party?

Or is Scotland going to turn into a one-party state?:hmmm:

Mike.

ExFishermanBob 05-08-15 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2312347)
Oh well, that's England and Scotland giving each other the finger, then.:hmmm:

Must be a bit of a bad taste in the mouth for the SNP, though. They sweep the board in Scotland, but still end up with a Tory majority government.:O:

I hope a lesson has been learned by people in Scotland. No matter what we do, England has more constituencies than Scotland. England can therefore do as it wishes and there is bugger-all Scotland can do about it.

'Nuff said!

Mike.

Learned that lesson quite a while ago. Don't despari - that Tory majority is very very slim. Remember, John Major started off with 21 and ended up pleading with NI parties for support.

(Plus, of course, even if Scotland had voted entirely Labour, it still would have been a Tory majority. What England votes for, we get.)

STEED 05-08-15 09:19 AM

Just checked the council results again and the first 50 are in out of 279 and their is no real change to the pattern that is unfolding showing LibDems and Independents taking the biggest knocking and UKIP & Conservatives doing the best.

If this carry's on it's going to be a double blow for the LibDems.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2...sults/councils[/QUOTE]

ExFishermanBob 05-08-15 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MGR1 (Post 2312416)
The main problem that UKIP face is the same as the SDP back in the 80's. Lots of votes nationwide, but not concentrated enough to get seats under FPTP.

From a Scottish perspective, it will be very interesting to see what happens next year with the Scottish Parliament elections. No doubt the SNP will win a majority again, but who will be the biggest opposition party?

Or is Scotland going to turn into a one-party state?:hmmm:

Mike.

Labour cannot, I think, have it both ways: popular in the South and in the North: they really need to split themselves up, properly (not the fake Scottish Labour accounting unit they have at the moment). I suspect that if Jim Murphy tries to continue as leader, he might just accidentally force that.

STEED 05-08-15 09:29 AM

Last GE result is in and the Tories have a majority of 4. Looks like some deals with the DUP and maybe the LibDems on some of the more tricky votes to come.

MGR1 05-08-15 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ExFishermanBob (Post 2312419)
Don't despari - that Tory majority is very very slim.

Ah, but I'm not despairing!:O: Politically I'd place myself to the right of the Lib-Dems, but left of the Tories. The SNP can throw it's toys out of the pram bellowing about the so-called "democratic deficit", but they're largely irrelevant. England says so. Nothing they can do about it. If they carry on as they are, English MP's of all parties will not work with them. Period. They're own constituents won't forgive them if they do.

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Originally Posted by ExFishermanBob (Post 2312422)
Labour cannot, I think, have it both ways: popular in the South and in the North: they really need to split themselves up, properly (not the fake Scottish Labour accounting unit they have at the moment). I suspect that if Jim Murphy tries to continue as leader, he might just accidentally force that.

It would appear that Murphy isn't stepping down as Scottish Labour Leader, so it's now obvious he's going to try his hand at Holyrood. Although I do believe that the various "branch offices" should split off and become truly Scottish, my main concern is that other than the Tories, all the Scottish parties are so damned left wing!:/\\!!

I think Scotland needs a "steel bath" economic lesson, and a harsh one at that. My fellow Scots need to learn that the Scottish financial pool is rather shallower than the UK's, regardless of what guff the SNP come out with.

Austerity? Wait until you see what happens when Scotland has to live within it's own financial means. We can't keep shoveling money into those areas that can't (or won't) pull their own weight economically.:hmmm:

Mike.

STEED 05-08-15 11:24 AM

My council result is in and more bad news, was NOC now Tory. :/\\!! :nope:

nikimcbee 05-08-15 11:52 AM

https://leftfootforward.org/images/2.../Cameron-2.jpg
Come on Steed, Come give me a big kiss! Don't be a h8tr!

STEED 05-08-15 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 2312450)
https://leftfootforward.org/images/2.../Cameron-2.jpg
Come on Steed, Come give me a big kiss! Don't be a h8tr!

I rather french kiss a skunk than kiss that BLEEPING BLEEP.

STEED 05-08-15 11:56 AM

116 council results in and now Labour are taking a knocking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2...sults/councils

HunterICX 05-08-15 12:22 PM

Even here on their holiday I've heard them cussing and cursing whilst reading their newspaper at the next door bar. :haha:


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