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For me who's from Scandinavia/Germany it's unbelievable. My comment isn't meant to criticize your society. It just made me :o Markus |
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This lunatic chose this school because it was a soft target. Apparently, if reports are correct, she / it considered other targets but chose not to attack them because they were better protected. Rockstar said you can't predict someone's behavior. That's mostly true but not always. People around this crazy had alerted authorities to how unbalanced this individual was. It's sad to say but nothing can substitute for being prepared for the worst and planing accordingly. The media certainly isn't helping either when they sensationalize tragic incidents like this as you and Neal have said, for ratings in competing with other networks. |
Media sensationalism could lead to other potential shooters being inspired or, even worse, trying to outdo their predecessors to achieve infamy.
Of course, though, that's not a single solution to the issue. Gun control and mental health are other factors that need to be addressed. |
The basis is a culture of violence, a founding of that culture in and by violence, and a historical heritage of violence. Social and sociometrical and economical reasons cannot be separated from this, since they too base on these fundaments, in their typical national interpretation that makes the USA actually the USA and different fom other places. The cream on top is a media circucs that from day to night lives by endlessly propagating "fear" as its greatest guarantor of quota and an endless focussing on and repetition of crime and violence. Not to mention the entertainment industry that is almost trivializing violence, turning it into an entertainment factor.
America is addicted to violence, it has it in its genes and in its blood and bones. Think of the man what you want, but in Bowling for Columbine, Michael Moore has worked out these connections as mercilessly as he has skillfully. It is and remains by far his best film, perhaps his only good film as some people say, I don't know, I don't know the others (or I forgot them, then i cannot have been too impressed: but BfC I remember). Thats why I am pessimistic about linear instruments and measures being capable to solve the issue. All these calls for changes and laws and measures are cosmetic only, scratch only on the surface. Born in blood, living in blood, maybe summarises the dilemma best. |
Last time this happened I proposed raising the age to 21 to purchase a firearm. If under 21 they can join the military and the government can train them to be proper killers. Also the purchaser must be capable of showing they are able to support themselves and if they have one a family. And they do not still live with mommy and daddy. And if they are taking prescription drugs having side effects of increased violent, suicidal and aggressive thoughts and behavior they relinquish their right to firearm possession until treatment and therapy is completed. And take those drugs off the market until ALL of the trial data is publicly available.
But leave me and my firearms out of the equation because I am NOT part of nor responsible for some nut cases personal problems and inability to cope and behave like a decent human being. |
arm the teachers,arm us bus monitors,give me a means to protect my kids my high school kids can handle my 45 if i cash out,i know if i'm on the bus and hearing shots in school i'm going in arm or not but i want a chance to do damage,i lived my life let my kids lived theirs i guess if you guys hear me cash out in a shooting throw a wake on here
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The everyday American is no more violent than anyone else. We do have an issue where our rights are being exploited by mentally ill people, most of whom should be in a treatment center, and an irresponsible news media, which capitalizes on these events to "sell papers". We certainly do have an issue with our justice system, we seem to be way too permissive with offenders. Quote:
I do agree, these days it seems the writers and producers are too lazy to make good films, they just grab something with a gun a run with it. |
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The 24th Amendment pretty that makes wealth a requirement for exercising a Constitutional right a moot point (ie: a poll tax and or property requirement). Drug and mental issues are addressed in title 18 USC. prohibiting certain persons from owning or purchasing a firearm, and most states go further with restrictions not to mention the new fad of "Red Flag Laws". (which I'm not a fan of, as the potential for abuse is very high). Maybe the answer is to start prosecuting gun violations rather than classifying them as "mutual combat" (reference to gang shooting in Chicago 2021) or pleading them down/dismissing them in court proceedings. |
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Reports suggest he had been previously arrested as a minor for planning a crime. Unfortunately a minors records are usually sealed. If he had to wait until 21 he would have a record that can be looked into. Either that make a minors arrest record available for background checks. The age of license (21 years old) prohibits children from purchasing alcohol. I believe the same can be applied to the purchase of firearms. |
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As I understand it starting in June 2022, background checks do include Juvenile records, at least for 18-21 year-olds. |
Maybe that’s the the case. In my opinion I see a difference between a right to bears arms and a right to purchase arms. Anyway, I’m gonna finish my meal now. :)
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Or obtain one through an inheritance, have one gifted to you by a family member or just use one that belongs to your mom and dad when you go hunting or to the range. They can also join the military.
I don’t think there is any constitutional guarantee which demands a privately owned company must sell you a firearm. |
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