In the past violence was used for a resolve, moreso as we struggled to become a nation as one to the 1900's. Certainly there were other times, prohibition started the gangster and mafia movements to a point of almost equal power to the government and people protected these folks as they saw the government infringe on our rights.

During the depression robbers and crooks were often seen as hero's, fighting the mean banks.

But overall few people had the military weapons you spoke of. Back then people seldom got violent to the other. Americans for the most part were of same mind and values...you know, the day when your kids could walk to school 5 miles and a parent not worry about it. Now our population has more than doubled and we face complex issues.

The fact is our past certainly shows we are capable of turning violent again. Overall, we are more in debt than we've ever been at a time the world is most dangerous. Once we went off the gold standard it went to hell.

We only look at out past to realize we could become that way in the future, but with our popualtion it could lead to chaos....as many nations are now finding out.

Course, I'm sure they're some GOP members that would feel another world war would solve everything.

well like Mr.Moore or not I though bowling for columbine was a very interesting video on the fact of gun violence in america.

IMO the young man who did this tragic act is no different then this lunatic here:

http://nstarzone.com/hinckley.jpg

John Hinkley JR. Loner, loser and got nothing to lose. Did his best to impress Jody Foster. How best to gain attention from a world were no one pays attention to you? Pull out the hardware and start blasting. Let me guess...both of these guys were reaching out for help...:doh: There is more to this kids story then what we know. It will come out eventually.


For now, my sincere condolences to the families involved and specifically the family of the 9 year old girl who was....'just interested in government/politics and was asked to go."

My point stands, though, anyone who thinks the US is more partisan, or more vitriolic, or has more violent political tendencies than the past is quite simply ignorant of American history.

It doesn't surprise me that this is the picture painted in the press—particularly outside the US (though I doubt most US reporters have a good grasp on American history, either). It makes better headlines ("historic partisanship grips congress!" LOL. Do these morons not know that people got in fist fights or DUELS in the past, lol).

I thought some of you guys might find this amusing:

http://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011...ah-palins.html

And so you are saying that Sarah Palin is the real shooter? Or are you saying that Sarah Palin's 'target' imagery is responsible for sending the shooter on his rampage? Or are you saying that Sarah Palin, through the acess of a time machine, identified people that would be targets of violence and posted them on her website? Or are you saying that Sarah Palin's editing of her own Facebook page makes her a clear and present danger to all serving public officials?

I don't think you're saying any of those things. I think that you are saying that you don't like Sarah Palin, and are hijacking the attempted murder of a serving public official in a very distasteful attempt to smear her. I don't like Palin either, but posting the type of insinuation that you have is something that only the most ectothermic could think was a good idea.

Do we really need to continue playing this event for political gain, especially the death of a child? :nope:

I have nothing to offer this thread other than my sincerest condolenses to those affected by this tragedy.
What a cruel and evil society we live in.

No, it does not but the Left will exploit this as much as possible.Instead of calling this horrible incident what it is(shooting rampage by a mentally disturbed loner), they will (some have already have) place blame on the current political climate and rhetoric by opponents of the Obama agenda.This guy was a loser who was expelled from community college and rejected by the military who is also unbalanced and could not handle that so he acted out as crazies tend to do.

The greatest thing we as a nation have to fear out of this incident is the ramifications that COULD affect freedom of speech and gun rights.I would almost bet some jagoff in Congress will use this an excuse to try and further erode the second amendment.Some Left leaning State Rep or Senator in AZ will no doubt try this at the state level.I already heard some Left wing puppet on MSNBC mention something about AZ not requiring a permit for concealed carry being "looked at", yep the wheels are in motion.Criticism of the President, Government etc will be prob be targeted as much as possible, all in the name of"safety".Access to members of congress may be further limited.Former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said it best "never let a crisis go to waste".Maybe our congress will act like adults, but I doubt it.

To be fair, some of the Right would prob exploit this also but that does not make it the right thing to do.This was a horrible incident by a deranged nut, nothing more, nothing less.The Left needs to not use this as a way to further circumvent that pesky thing they despise so much, The US Constitution.

Oh yea, can't wait to discuss this in a classroom full of Liberals tomorrow, ahhh.

Not our society, just like any society there a nutjobs who do horrible things.Our society is overall a good one, don't blame it.I saw part of a thing on Dateline tonight about the victims who died, the nine year old girl who died, that part just upset me.I hope this guy gets the death penalty, if anyone ever deserved it, this loser did.

WoW 2011!

Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity in your first sentence. :roll:

Edit:
And now that I actually finished reading it, that holds for the rest of your post, as well.

Yea, my comment " what a cruel and evil society we live in" wasn't quiet right, i meant to say: what a cruel and evil society it can be.
A horrible tragedy, nonetheless.

Oh the eye roll:woot: I was fair and pointed out the other side would prob do it as well, but already seen it from the Left.I hate it, it's a tragedy and should not be exploited for any reason.

This shooting was not about politics, it was a disturbed loser acting out, nothing more.Makes me sick to see it exploited by anyone.However, denying that the Left is already trying to exploit this and will continue to is living in fantasy land.

Ah ok, well yes it can be but any society can be cruel.