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sergei 08-14-10 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1467784)
Would it help if I put in some digital readouts of the true course?

Do you mean true bearing?

Nisgeis 08-14-10 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sergei (Post 1467798)
Do you mean true bearing?

I was sure that's what I had said :hmmm:. Yes, true radar bearing to target on the radar station, just to make things easy, accurate and fast.

Oh btw thanks for the explanation about the nomograph. I never knew how that worked :DL. Who did that mod?

sergei 08-14-10 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1467802)
I'm sure that's what I said :hmmm:

That's what is says now.
Maybe I quoted you as you were still editing your post? :03:

A digital readout of true bearing would greatly simplify the plotting task.
No more screwing around with the protractor.
Just mark true bearing and range from the ruler, job done.
One tool to rule them all. :DL

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1467802)
Oh btw thanks for the explanation about the nomograph. I never knew how that worked :DL. Who did that mod?

That's no problem.
The nomograph is a massively useful little tool.
I couldn't imagine playing the game without it.
There are various versions available on the forum, so I couldn't say who made it originally.
The one you see in my screenshots comes as part of TMO 2.0.
I believe RFB also comes with a nomograph.

I'm goin' down 08-14-10 12:40 PM

sergei
 
After reading your post re the Nomograph, I had a wonderful night's sleep dreaming of the how I won the Battle of the Philipine Sea with my Nomograph. You screenies of the Nomograph posted this morning were also excellent! Very, very nice job from a senior skipper!:up:

Nisgeis 08-14-10 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sergei (Post 1467826)
That's what is says now.
Maybe I quoted you as you were still editing your post? :03:

Hmmm, you did it again. I editted the last post to say 'I was sure that's what I had said' because I did get it wrong, but wanted to make it clear that it was editted, but then you went and ninja quoted me again! You've got to be quick round here! :DL

sergei 08-14-10 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1467843)
You've got to be quick round here! :DL

I've had a lot of coffee today Nisgeis, what can I say? :DL

EDIT: I've just checked the TMO Manual.
Someone called Hildofr is credited with the Nomograph.

I'm goin' down 08-14-10 01:01 PM

what buttons do I hit to multi quote a message? I cannot figure it out.

Nisgeis and Bowfin - Bowfin was right re true course to plot from the range and bearing readings. I was wrong. I did not realize the that the dial on the ceiling near the A scope contained both true and relative courses. A close reading of Nisgeis positive feedback re Bowfin's post caused me to take a second look. Nisgeis, if you can add the true bearing digital readout to the mod as you suggested it would probably improve the mod for those of us, like me, who prefer dinner handed to them on a silver platter. Good find, Captain Bowfin!:yeah:

Nisgeis 08-14-10 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm goin' down (Post 1467859)
what buttons do I hit to multi quote a message? I cannot figure it out.

Hit the button next to the quote button. It's the one with the + on it and the tooltip will say 'Multi-Quote This Message'. You have to be logged in initially for it to even appear. Nothing will happen at first, but click each post you want to quote until you get to the last post you want to quote, then click the normal quote button (Reply With Quote). The editor will then appear with all the messages you queued up in it.

I'm goin' down 08-14-10 01:09 PM

John Channing
 
Excellent reply. Thank you, thank you, thank you (he said falling all over himself)!

I have copied your reply below, with this suggestion. You numbering is confusing and does not track my post. I have bolded and underlined what I think are the corrections that will minimize reader confusion. If you correct your respones, PM me and I will delete this post. Here we go:

OK... let's deal with some of your unanswered questions.


Introductory Paragraph: The only reason for using the "Target " dial is that it makes the outer arrow on the "Target Course" dial move much faster than just clicking in the "Target Course" dial. You can get to the speed quicker. If just working with the "Target Course" dial works for you, go with it.

1) Already answered (and call me John.) See Sergei's post re the Nomograph.

2) - There is a bug in the game that when you leave the radar "station" it will go from "Focus" to "Sweep" mode. There is no way to prevent it. Turning off the radar means the radar bearing sweep will stay in the position that it was in when you turned it off. In fast developing scenarios you don't want to waste time finding your blips!

3)- Sometimes I find the "watch button" unreliable. It's important to note that even today they till have a full manual tracking party developing a solution alongside the BSY Series combat systems. Having two systems mens better results. OK... it a personal thing. I don't trust some of the game mechanics.

Lastly if you have a rapidly closing target just move to about 1200 yds off his track and change your course to match his and match his speed. Now he isn't closing anymore and you will have all the time you need. Once you are happy with your solution slow down, change course to close his track, submerge and shoot.

JCC

I think the bolded portions make your response line up with my questions, but it is your call.

I'm goin' down 08-14-10 01:21 PM

nisgeis
 
thanks for the instructions re multi quoting a message. I would have never figured it out.

BTW - you did not know how to use the Nomograph? That is quite surprising given your detailed analytical approach to the Sim. I wonder if aaronblood, the creator of the amazing MoBo program, has the same issue.:DL
Will wonders never cease?

It just goes to show all of us idiots that all is not lost. There is hope for us, even if we are not among the sharpest knives in the drawer.

I'm goin' down 08-14-10 01:30 PM

Nisgeis
 
I read some posts a while ago about the Nomograph. They discussed it and were wondering when it would be modded into the game. I think it happened quite some time ago, but I am not going to search for it as I don't have time right now.

Nisgeis 08-14-10 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sergei (Post 1467847)
Someone called Hildofr is credited with the Nomograph.

I found the thread he posted it in. He only posted twice on subsim and the first one was to post up a link to the imperial nomograph.

I'm goin' down 08-14-10 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis (Post 1467930)
I found the thread he posted it in. He only posted twice on subsim and the first one was to post up a link to the imperial nomograph.

I tried to multi quote the post from Nisgeis above and it failed again!! I need a walk through as I am not getting it.

Nisgeis 08-14-10 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm goin' down (Post 1467945)
I tried to multi quote the post from Nisgeis above and it failed again!! I need a walk through as I am not getting it.

Try this thread:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ht=multi-quote

I'm goin' down 08-14-10 02:56 PM

Battle of the Philipine Sea
 
I am there, and waving my 3D TDC in the faces of the Jap fleet. But I got a problem. A Jap task force is coming right at me. My radarman says there are lots and lots of targets on his radar screen. So, you say, what's the problem? Well sir, I am trying to get a fix on one target as I manuever for position, so I can plot its course and use my trusty NOMOGRAPH to calculate it speed (hats off to Sergei). I see a lot of spikes on the A scope as I peer over the radarman's shoulder (he needs to take a bath!). How do I know I am tracking the same target? I am getting range and bearing readings all over the place. I stopped the game and will replay from the point of first contact once I figure this out. (Just my luck. When I am all set to go, there are too many ducks on the pond.)

Second problem. I can read the digital bearing on the ceiling, but I cannot zoom in close enough to read the true or relative bearing on the actual tool (it looks like a compass.) Thus, Bowfin's secret tip on plotting using the true bearing may not be feasible.:wah: Any suggestions? (Nisgeis, a digital read out of true bearing would be a nice addition.)


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