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Jimbuna 01-19-10 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1240200)
Don't take the bait :03:

Precisely.

Hope is fast dwindling now with regards to finding many more survivors :nope:

AVGWarhawk 01-19-10 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1240200)
Don't take the bait :03:

I like bait, e'specially if it is live! :D

bookworm_020 01-19-10 08:54 PM

Here's a different take on what's happening.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/societ...ml?autostart=1

Is it right? Is it wrong?:hmmm:

Torplexed 01-19-10 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020 (Post 1240474)
Here's a different take on what's happening.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/societ...ml?autostart=1

Is it right? Is it wrong?:hmmm:

It's a little of both.

The cruise industry says all ships visiting Haiti are dropping off relief supplies, and donating some of their profits, but some passengers stayed aboard, saying they'd feel guilty romping in the surf so close to where people were dying. They thought the ships should've skipped Haiti, so they could have vacationed at a respectable distance. But does that make sense? You have to ask yourself will guilt ultimately rescue Haiti?

Haiti's problem is poverty. That's why they don't live in sturdy homes; that's why they have no emergency services. And yes, we're all giving money NOW. But how long before we get burnt out on those fund-raising calls and start screening them out? How long before we're no longer shocked by the pictures? And when that starts happening, how will Haiti make money? Its most lucrative assets at this point are the very things that attract the cruise ships. Warm weather, blue water, and quiet beaches. If the cruise ships skip Labadee, the employees of the resort who may be their extended family's only source of income after this disaster are possibly unemployed as well.

Yes, it makes you cringe to see overfed cruise passengers scooting around on jet skis while people are dying a few miles away. But as bad as it looks -- what's going to help keep Haiti going after we've all moved on to the next disaster?

Snestorm 01-19-10 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020 (Post 1240474)
Here's a different take on what's happening.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/societ...ml?autostart=1

Is it right? Is it wrong?:hmmm:

It sure would seem that, that dock is a valuable asset, which could be put to better use.

But, then again, I don't have all the facts neccesary to make a judgement.

OneToughHerring 01-20-10 12:54 AM

Dowly,

So maybe two or three bodies positively from a fairly long distance? I'm just saying, and it's not just this Haiti-thing, it's been going on since day one. Just remember those famine images from Africa etc. I'm not even trolling here, I think the biggest media houses are kind of 'trolling' by flooding the media with "disaster porn" as SteamWake correctly said and showing very little if any restraint in this case.

But enough of this OT. 72 000 bodies counted so far. Looks like this really will be one of the biggest earthquakes in recent times.

nikimcbee 01-20-10 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1240322)
I like bait, e'specially if it is live! :D

Can I use it for crabbing? Will those #$%@#%$, @!#$%@#%ing seal bother it? Will it work better than rotten chichen?

SteamWake 01-20-10 12:43 PM

USN Comfort arriving in Haitai as we speak.

They had to slow a bit after throtteling the hell out of the engines and starting a small fire and some other break downs.

I was told that they felt the aftershock on board. :o

SteamWake 01-20-10 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1240557)
It sure would seem that, that dock is a valuable asset, which could be put to better use.

But, then again, I don't have all the facts neccesary to make a judgement.

There small docks. The 'liners' anchor off shore and ferry the pax in. Not much commercial value.

Dont overlook the part where the liners are carrying relief supplys as well.

Snestorm 01-20-10 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1241018)
There small docks. The 'liners' anchor off shore and ferry the pax in. Not much commercial value.

Dont overlook the part where the liners are carrying relief supplys as well.

Thanks for the update.
Glad I chose not to rush to judgement.

Jimbuna 01-20-10 03:21 PM

In this evenings UK news they highlighted the fact that over 2,000 people in a makeshift camp located less than 200 metres from the entrance to the airport have received absolutely no aid and are slowly starving to death.

There was a live interview with the US General Commanding Officer and in it he stated "I was unaware of this data".

It would appear lines of communication and information are pretty weak in places....it makes little sense in seeing news clips of a few lucky souls being found alive after eight days, yet thousands nearby are suffering.

SteamWake 01-20-10 03:34 PM

Sorry I have to call BS on that news report.

Yes lets focus on the negative shall we :nope:

Jimbuna 01-20-10 03:59 PM

The majority of the report actually highlighted the positives and focussed the majority of the airtime on a joint Turkish/US (a team each from Virginia and New York City)/Haitian effort culminating in a succesful rescue of a young boy and his sister.

Did any Brits see the North East News programme at 18:00 this evening?

OneToughHerring 01-21-10 03:11 PM

A pier is open and aid is pooring in according to CNN. The pier is in bad shape though.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americ...=googletoolbar

jimbuna,

There's probably all sorts of mismanagement going on there right now, hopefully, at least, the worst is over.

AVGWarhawk 01-21-10 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1242336)
A pier is open and aid is pooring in according to CNN. The pier is in bad shape though.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americ...=googletoolbar

jimbuna,

There's probably all sorts of mismanagement going on there right now, hopefully, at least, the worst is over.


There is always mismanagement on some level at the start. Eventually the supply chain is established and things work out. It is hard to get cooperation amongst the mass confusion from the start. Calm is restored. A month from now you will hear nothing about Haiti but relief efforts will continue. Just the nature of the beast.


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