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Obama on guns from someone that knows...

Just to clear the record in case anyone has questions on his true stance on this. Of course this also means that it is another record to the fact that we know nothing about him.

-S

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Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson Issues Open Letter to Nation's Sportsmen Regarding Obama's History in the Illinois Senate

CHICAGO, Oct. 15 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following is the text
of an open letter to the nation's hunters and sportsmen issued today by
Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson:

Fellow Sportsman,

Hello, my name is Rich Pearson and I have been active in the firearm
rights movement for over 40 years. For the past 15 years, I have served in
the Illinois state capitol as the chief lobbyist for the Illinois State
Rifle Association.

I lobbied Barack Obama extensively while he was an Illinois State
Senator. As a result of that experience, I know Obama's attitudes toward
guns and gun owners better than anyone. The truth be told, in all my years
in the Capitol I have never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for
the law-abiding firearm owner than does Barack Obama.

Although Obama claims to be an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, his
voting record in the Illinois Senate paints a very different picture. While
a state senator, Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting
rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill
would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly
confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down
law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite,
Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also voted for a bill that would
prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more than one gun per month.

Without a doubt, Barack Obama has proven himself to be an enemy of the
law abiding firearm owner. At the same time, Obama has proven himself to be
a friend to the hardened criminal. While a state senator, Obama voted 4
times against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in
defense of home and family.

Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a "friend" of the law-abiding
gun owner?

And speaking of friends, you can always tell a person by the company
they keep. Obama counts among his friends the Rev. Michael Pfleger - a
renegade Chicago priest who has openly called for the murder of gun shop
owners and pro-gun legislators. Then there is his buddy Richard Daley, the
mayor of Chicago who has declared that if it were up to him, nobody would
be allowed to own a gun. And let's not forget Obama's pal George Soros -
the guy who has pumped millions of dollars into the UN's international
effort to disarm law-abiding citizens.

Obama has shown that he is more than willing to use other people's
money to fund his campaign to take your guns away from you. While a board
member of the leftist Joyce Foundation, Barack Obama wrote checks for tens
of millions of dollars to extremist gun control organizations such as the
Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence and the Violence Policy Center.

Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a "friend" of the law-abiding
gun owner?

By now, I'm sure that many of you have received mailings from an
organization called "American Hunters and Shooters Association(AHSA)"
talking about what a swell fellow Obama is and how he honors the 2nd
Amendment and how you will never have to worry about Obama coming to take
your guns. Let me make it perfectly clear - everything the AHSA says about
Obama is pure hogwash. The AHSA is headed by a group of left-wing elitists
who subscribe to the British view of hunting and shooting. That is, a state
of affairs where hunting and shooting are reserved for the wealthy
upper-crust who can afford guided hunts on exclusive private reserves. The
AHSA is not your friend, never will be.

In closing, I'd like to remind you that I'm a guy who has actually gone
nose to nose with Obama on gun rights issues. The Obama I know cannot even
begin to identify with this nation's outdoor traditions. The Obama I know
sees you, the law abiding gun owner, as nothing but a low-class lummox who
is easily swayed by the flash of a smile and a ration of rosy rhetoric. The
Obama I know is a stony-faced liar who has honed his skill at getting what
he wants - so long as people are willing to give it to him.

That's the Barack Obama I know.

The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful and
responsible firearms ownership. Founded in 1903, the ISRA has represented
the interests of millions of law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4904149&EDATE=

This goes in "Slam Obama" Subman... are you a 4 year old who can't understand basic policy?

This isn't a slam against Obama. It is a real issue.

One that needs to be known by potential voters.

Are you classifying any thread that has Obama in the name as a slam? Now that is censorship on your part.

-S

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

This isn't a slam against Obama. It is a real issue.

One that needs to be known by potential voters.

-S

No it is a slam. A political slam the same "We don't know Obama" attack that is said almost every day on Faux news. Only thing you are missing is the "Obama will have complete control" arguement McCain has sprouted today.

Why do you insist on raising the status of those on the left like Skybird by making those on the right look like idiots who can't follow simple policy? You have posted topic after topic that has been merged with the Slam Obama thread and yet you STILL do not get with the picture.

Edit: As for your censorship claim. Last time I checked it is .com and not .gov or .org and a private forum. Your claims of censorship mean nothing.

I'm sorry, but this doesn't qualify and you know it.

As i said above, you are classifying any thread that has Obama in the name as a slam and that is censorship on your part.

-S

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I'm sorry, but this doesn't qualify and you know it.

As i said above, you are classifying any thread that has Obama in the name as a slam and that is censorship on your part.

-S

This is the reason you think people hate you. You start assuming what we think.

Eventually Neal is going to deal with this problem. Yes he may even ban me as well but I highly doubt the mods are happy about constantly check any topic you have started to see if they have to hit the merge button today. Subsim seems to be a home to post your propaganda and people are tired of it because it is not I REPEAT NOT a political forum.

You also felt your other topics did not qualify as a slam on Obama otherwise you would have followed policy right? The mods seemed to have not agreed with you and I HIGHLY doubt they will agree on this one.

Cry and moan about censorship if you want. It has never worked before and will not work again. This is a private forum plain and frakking simple.

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

This is the reason you think people hate you. You start assuming that we think....

No. This is pretty clear that this is not the case.

-S

http://www.gunbanobama.com/

No here is an interesting website dedicated to the real policies of Obama.

-S

You really do want to be banned don't you?

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

You really do want to be banned don't you?

Typical response from someone who votes for or supports Democrats. Don't like the message........find a way to censor or ban the messenger. Very typical.

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I'm sorry, but this doesn't qualify and you know it.

As i said above, you are classifying any thread that has Obama in the name as a slam and that is censorship on your part.

-S

Well getting the message out about Obama is something these people desperately don't want. Hence they consider the free flow of information as a threat or a "slam". It is one of their distinct weaknesses.

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Originally Posted by Frame57

I do not fear the dems or the reps, but what i do fear is social engineering. For the Bill Clinton fans, I will tell you this; he balanced the budget by cutting capital gains taxes. The smartest thing he did! BO will raise taxes to put money into social engineering programs. I would not even label the man-a democrat. Even Bill Clinton understood what it takes to be economically sound. BO does not!

Actually Bill Clinton didn't cut or raise taxes, he just signed bills passed by Congress, and they're the ones who would fund any social engineering programs (otherwise known as porkbarrel) as well.

What I worry about is who Obamas advisers might be and how much of a negative influence they will have on his good judgment. He's shown a willingness to embrace dangerous radicals and I just hope to God that they don't own him as much as some folks believe they do.

It's never a good thing when both houses of Congress and the executive branch are all controlled by one party. Bad legislation gets passed because there is no need for consensus. It wasn't a good thing when the Republicans had it and it won't be a good thing if the Democrats get it.

Nobody is getting banned but this is more anti-Obama posts from the same person, so it goes in the pile.;)

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

You really do want to be banned don't you?

Typical response from someone who votes for or supports Democrats. Don't like the message........find a way to censor or ban the messenger. Very typical.

What is sadly typical is one poster flooding this forum time and time again with these anti-Obama topics.

The mods merged them anyway. It is people that think they have some "Right to know" crap from faux news or whatever. That cry "CENSORSHIP" on a private forum whenever people call out their actions.

I have been a repub before. I know the game. Whisper Campaigns and Misinfo 4 the win!

This year tho well people are tired of it. And I am tired of this member's topics flooding this forum when there are better things to discuss.

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

Nonsense. In case you didn't notice there is a major election coming up with alot at stake for the country. I find discussing the candidates candidly needs to happen. But as usual when you don't like the message, you start hinting at "bannings" to try and shut the information flow. That's what Democrats do. You don't like the discussion....leave it. You have that freedom. Freedom...a concept foreign and vile to a typical Democrat. Personally, I think there are many horrible possibilities regarding Obama and total control of D.C. by democrats. And it needs to be talked about. Things like this:

http://www.workforce.com/section/00/...e/25/83/58.php

"Democrats contemplate abolishing 401(k) tax breaks" . Mull that one over and tell me that Democrat control is a good thing.